Message from @.Not Sean

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2019-01-29 17:55:34 UTC  

I just wound up being areligious, I was an atheist, then an agnostic, then I just stopped caring at all about the subject from a spiritual view.

2019-01-29 17:57:07 UTC  

Rip

2019-01-29 17:57:08 UTC  
2019-01-29 17:57:11 UTC  

there's a term that I liked. It was Ignostic I think it was.

Basically it's this: Can the existence of God be tested for positively or negatively? No. Then the question is irrelevant move on

2019-01-29 17:57:30 UTC  

Lol I like it

2019-01-29 17:57:31 UTC  

I actually read a paper from a friend of mine discussing the dogmatism of social justice

2019-01-29 17:57:49 UTC  

It is very dogmatic

2019-01-29 17:57:56 UTC  

Ohhhh yeah

2019-01-29 17:58:05 UTC  

social justice is even worse

2019-01-29 17:58:14 UTC  

He made the case that when you try to eradicate religion from society, it comes back in manifestations you wouldn't expect. I.E. social justice. I laid in bed thinking about that for hours last night.

2019-01-29 17:58:18 UTC  

Hence why sjws label me a bad person for not believing the gospel

2019-01-29 17:58:20 UTC  

because it has the one-two punch of original sin *and* no redemption path

2019-01-29 17:58:41 UTC  

There is one

2019-01-29 17:58:45 UTC  

It is very much dogmatic and filled with people trying to get more offended more than the other nowadays.

2019-01-29 17:58:54 UTC  

Become intersectional

2019-01-29 17:58:54 UTC  

What do you guys think of that claim though?

2019-01-29 17:59:08 UTC  

I had this exact conversation with a group recently. The removal of religion in such a haphazard manner has left a philosophical hole in our society

2019-01-29 17:59:19 UTC  

Did it?

2019-01-29 17:59:20 UTC  

but we didn't do anything to replace it with anything good

2019-01-29 17:59:29 UTC  

Exactly man

2019-01-29 17:59:35 UTC  

so people fill it with whatever nonsense they can glom onto

2019-01-29 17:59:47 UTC  

Like maybe until mankind becomes evolved enough, we need religion to prevent that kind of dogmatism from manifesting in other ideologies

2019-01-29 17:59:48 UTC  

I have a lot of religion surrounding me I guess so I didn't notice

2019-01-29 17:59:54 UTC  

So I guess that's why Indonesia doesn't have this kind of problem in terms of SJWs.

2019-01-29 18:00:09 UTC  

That's fucking crazy to think about isn't it

2019-01-29 18:00:15 UTC  

It's like ideological compromise or something

2019-01-29 18:00:30 UTC  

(And also because communism is a felony here )

2019-01-29 18:00:32 UTC  

Its not a compromise so much as a need

2019-01-29 18:00:50 UTC  

People have to feel that they are part of something bigger than themselves according to the hirearchy of needs

2019-01-29 18:00:53 UTC  

Well you're recognizing the need via compromise

2019-01-29 18:00:56 UTC  

It's both

2019-01-29 18:01:09 UTC  

not really. When you force change at a pace faster than society can naturally accept without making an effort to mitigate what you just did you wind up with this kind of thing

2019-01-29 18:01:25 UTC  

Agreed

2019-01-29 18:02:03 UTC  

People are going to dogmatize something, it might as well be religion

2019-01-29 18:02:06 UTC  

@Der Kommissar so is atheism though

2019-01-29 18:02:08 UTC  

Forcing people to abandon religion is also morally wrong

2019-01-29 18:02:16 UTC  

Eh, morals

2019-01-29 18:02:22 UTC  

effectively

2019-01-29 18:02:28 UTC  

Like societies tend to get more progressive as they age, but in the last twenty or so years, it's accelerated to the point that we're making progress faster than society at large can absorb

2019-01-29 18:02:33 UTC  

I avoid moral arguments if necessary, those can get really abstract