Message from @AxiomOverride

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2019-01-29 17:49:08 UTC  

"The worth of an opinion is not how true it is, but the value it holds" or something like that

2019-01-29 17:49:16 UTC  

Religion from a philosophical, societal and traditional standpoint can actually be rather unifying and centering for a lot of people. The problem is when people take it to either a dogmatic end or worse commit atrocities in the name of said Religion

2019-01-29 17:49:38 UTC  

but that's any philosophy

2019-01-29 17:49:47 UTC  

see social justice

2019-01-29 17:49:52 UTC  

The problem is the majority of religious people aren't philosophers and do indeed take it to a dogmatic respect

2019-01-29 17:49:59 UTC  

this is very true

2019-01-29 17:50:11 UTC  

but as far as religious philosophers go, I see them intellectually as equals

2019-01-29 17:50:23 UTC  

to any atheistic philosopher

2019-01-29 17:50:34 UTC  

in terms of how much I respect them

2019-01-29 17:50:41 UTC  

very open minded of you in 2019

2019-01-29 17:51:06 UTC  

Thanks man, I'm still an atheist, but yea, religion definitely has its place imo

2019-01-29 17:51:11 UTC  

except William Lane Craig

2019-01-29 17:51:24 UTC  

no respect for that hack

2019-01-29 17:51:29 UTC  

I was an Atheist/Agnostic up until about a year ago

2019-01-29 17:51:36 UTC  
2019-01-29 17:51:43 UTC  

Who the heck is that?

2019-01-29 17:51:49 UTC  

So you know good and well that atheists can be just as bad as the dogmatism we see in religion

2019-01-29 17:52:01 UTC  

I think they annoy me more tbh lol

2019-01-29 17:52:18 UTC  

William Lane Craig is a professional Christian apologist/debater/Gish galloper

2019-01-29 17:52:37 UTC  

You can still learn quite a bit of real philosophy from tearing apart WLC.

2019-01-29 17:52:39 UTC  

he's into Cosmology (not the hairdresser stuff)

2019-01-29 17:52:49 UTC  

Cosmetology lol

2019-01-29 17:52:54 UTC  

I get those confused too

2019-01-29 17:52:59 UTC  

he's about as kooky as it comes

2019-01-29 17:53:09 UTC  

Although i'm very much annoyed with people who treat science like the gospel that can't be changed.

2019-01-29 17:53:41 UTC  

well, it's the same thing. They're dogmatic about it

2019-01-29 17:53:43 UTC  

It might as well be the cosmetological argument for God.

2019-01-29 17:53:48 UTC  

yeah William Lane Craig tends to have debates with scientists rather than with atheist Bible scholars

2019-01-29 17:54:36 UTC  

the cosmetological argument for God...I guess that would be the fine-tuning argument

2019-01-29 17:54:40 UTC  

Is he a televangelist or some shit?

2019-01-29 17:55:15 UTC  

no he's a professor

2019-01-29 17:55:34 UTC  

I just wound up being areligious, I was an atheist, then an agnostic, then I just stopped caring at all about the subject from a spiritual view.

2019-01-29 17:57:07 UTC  

Rip

2019-01-29 17:57:08 UTC  
2019-01-29 17:57:11 UTC  

there's a term that I liked. It was Ignostic I think it was.

Basically it's this: Can the existence of God be tested for positively or negatively? No. Then the question is irrelevant move on

2019-01-29 17:57:30 UTC  

Lol I like it

2019-01-29 17:57:31 UTC  

I actually read a paper from a friend of mine discussing the dogmatism of social justice

2019-01-29 17:57:49 UTC  

It is very dogmatic

2019-01-29 17:57:56 UTC  

Ohhhh yeah

2019-01-29 17:58:05 UTC  

social justice is even worse