Message from @Rotmistrz

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2017-04-13 22:10:45 UTC  

<@302183124400603139> cant you have a life of happiness while still working

2017-04-13 22:11:30 UTC  

in the end peace besettles us all be it the grave or an early retirement

2017-04-13 22:12:32 UTC  

oh then you're right

2017-04-13 22:12:44 UTC  

but a man, tending to his

2017-04-13 22:13:00 UTC  

crops, i guess

2017-04-13 22:13:12 UTC  

can be fulfilled while still leaving in peace

2017-04-13 22:14:18 UTC  

that wont work

2017-04-13 22:14:36 UTC  

yeah doesn't seem like a good diea

2017-04-13 22:14:36 UTC  

i wish war wasnt an option either but

2017-04-13 22:14:38 UTC  

diea

2017-04-13 22:14:43 UTC  

ok im retarded

2017-04-13 22:14:52 UTC  

people do it becasue there is something worth fighting for

2017-04-13 22:15:11 UTC  

just wars are usually only when you get invaded

2017-04-13 22:15:23 UTC  

or if you go invade a country not for the purpose of taking it

2017-04-13 22:15:31 UTC  

but if there is amoral obligation behind it

2017-04-13 22:15:38 UTC  

like a genocide or some shit happening in another country

2017-04-13 22:16:21 UTC  

🤔

2017-04-13 22:16:22 UTC  

if you look at most medieval and reliious scholars

2017-04-13 22:16:28 UTC  

even the ancient greeks wrote about it

2017-04-13 22:16:31 UTC  

you know i have to come back to you on that

2017-04-13 22:16:33 UTC  

aggressive war is not jsut war

2017-04-13 22:16:38 UTC  

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

2017-04-13 22:16:40 UTC  

if its jsut for the purpose of taking land

2017-04-13 22:16:48 UTC  

and taking other peoples proeprty

2017-04-13 22:16:56 UTC  

well thats where it gets complicated

2017-04-13 22:17:04 UTC  

if you're on the verge of getting fucekd

2017-04-13 22:17:13 UTC  

becasue u dont have resources desperate times call fo r desperate measure

2017-04-13 22:17:17 UTC  

and you go attack

2017-04-13 22:17:35 UTC  

its like a poor person with a family who cant offer them anything to feed

2017-04-13 22:17:48 UTC  

they go steal to provide their family with food to survive

2017-04-13 22:18:07 UTC  

you can argue in that case stealing can be somewhat justified if it means your lfie is on the line

2017-04-13 22:18:11 UTC  

this is an interesting discussion

2017-04-13 22:18:22 UTC  

yea i mentioned that above rustic

2017-04-13 22:18:26 UTC  

a war can be conisdered just

2017-04-13 22:18:30 UTC  

if you go invade to stop them

2017-04-13 22:18:33 UTC  

for moral reasons

2017-04-13 22:18:44 UTC  

but those political philosphers say that if you do go invade it is solely

2017-04-13 22:18:49 UTC  

to stop that act from happening

2017-04-13 22:18:56 UTC  

if you start killing innocents

2017-04-13 22:19:09 UTC  

and you steal land and property than for some that would not be just

2017-04-13 22:19:29 UTC  

thats what the US did