If its reason then provide a deductive argument

Instead of acting like its assumed

inb4 we would be extinct if we didnt do that

I can say gathering sticks on the Sabbath does not cause an offense to anyone. So it would not justify stoning a man to death. Morality based on reason like what the founding fathers asserted

Why should "offense" be the standard which transfers an action from an amoral one, to an immoral/moral one?

lol

Don't remember saying a joke, answer the question

Is this Humes is vs ought?

Hell femoids

No?

I never even indicated that its the is/ought lol

I'm asking why should that be the standard which makes something moral/immoral

Reason

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I have answered you

What reason

What reason concludes that offense is the standard which makes something moral/immoral

Present it

Who gave you that reason??

didnt this start as le state should be the church debate

Nature enabled are brains to grow large enough to have reason

Literally irrelevant lmao

I have a shrine to the governer of Massachusetts in my workspace

reason is defined as adequate correspondence between premises and conclusions in philosophy, what does the origin of reason have anything to do with your reason concluding that offense is a standard by which we should judge actions?

Turkey also had a secular constitution

???

What the fuck are you going on about

Yeah i think they're trolling

Trolling isn't allowed in serious chats, so cut it off

Now ad hominem

LOOL

You guys are not too bright

Anyway you're boring later

Adhom is insulting instead of acknowledging arguments, you made no arguments

I asked you for an argument

`Turkey also had a secular constitution` how are we supposed to respond to this besides mockery

You just ignored me because you realized you're wrong

lol this @Ater Votum

your average 14 year old atheist everybody

You started the insults, called me a troll later

When did i insult you instead of acknowledging the argument?