Message from @Zach

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2020-02-11 14:03:22 UTC  

Well that's not an argument

2020-02-11 14:03:34 UTC  

I'd like to see an argument instead of just unsubstantiated assertions

2020-02-11 14:04:29 UTC  

Gonna die one day and afterlife don't exist so sad!

2020-02-11 14:04:49 UTC  

These are substantieatd it's in Numbers, Moses orders genocide, the killing of every male child even babies and every non virgin female. Though told his men to take the virgins as sex slaves

2020-02-11 14:05:30 UTC  

LOL you asserted moral absolutism is wrong, i asked you for a justification, and your justification are biblical historical accounts while making more invalid moral judgements???

2020-02-11 14:05:46 UTC  

that's not a justification bucko

2020-02-11 14:05:52 UTC  

Please present an argument against moral absolutism

2020-02-11 14:07:21 UTC  

15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

2020-02-11 14:07:26 UTC  

Not an argument

2020-02-11 14:07:36 UTC  

Missing the point again

2020-02-11 14:07:50 UTC  

Why do people not listen

2020-02-11 14:08:03 UTC  

I asked for an argument against moral absolutism which basically implies moral objectivism. Your argument are biblical verses about genocide?

2020-02-11 14:08:40 UTC  

That in itself assumes a moral judgement, I'm saying you cannot make any moral judgements because your moral compass doesn't appeal to that which is unconditionally non dependent

2020-02-11 14:08:42 UTC  

Inb4 crusades

2020-02-11 14:08:43 UTC  

Now, present an argument

2020-02-11 14:08:48 UTC  

wouldnt surprise me tbh

2020-02-11 14:08:51 UTC  

holy jihads

2020-02-11 14:09:00 UTC  

Bro justify the crusades

2020-02-11 14:09:11 UTC  

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2020-02-11 14:09:23 UTC  

Its not like it was warranted already

2020-02-11 14:09:59 UTC  

Well you are obfuscating the point you made originally since it's intellectually bankrupt that no form of morality is valid without religion. I am showing the morality of your holybook. "17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." Your religions calls for genocide , rape and child murder

2020-02-11 14:10:24 UTC  

So what?

2020-02-11 14:10:34 UTC  

good rebuttal

2020-02-11 14:10:41 UTC  

in fact it is lol

2020-02-11 14:11:18 UTC  

My religion calls for genocide, ok, and? What grants you the moral authority to judge genocide if your moral compass is arbitrary and subjective

2020-02-11 14:11:36 UTC  

Because i can justify that genocide the same way, "it was arbitrary and subjective, just as your moral evaluation of it is right now"

2020-02-11 14:11:50 UTC  

Reason gives me that judgement

2020-02-11 14:11:57 UTC  

What reasons

2020-02-11 14:11:59 UTC  

If its reason then provide a deductive argument

2020-02-11 14:12:24 UTC  

Instead of acting like its assumed

2020-02-11 14:12:33 UTC  

inb4 we would be extinct if we didnt do that

2020-02-11 14:13:14 UTC  

I can say gathering sticks on the Sabbath does not cause an offense to anyone. So it would not justify stoning a man to death. Morality based on reason like what the founding fathers asserted

2020-02-11 14:13:49 UTC  

Why should "offense" be the standard which transfers an action from an amoral one, to an immoral/moral one?

2020-02-11 14:14:02 UTC  

lol

2020-02-11 14:14:12 UTC  

Don't remember saying a joke, answer the question

2020-02-11 14:14:30 UTC  

Is this Humes is vs ought?

2020-02-11 14:14:34 UTC  

Hell femoids

2020-02-11 14:14:42 UTC  

No?

2020-02-11 14:14:57 UTC  

I never even indicated that its the is/ought lol

2020-02-11 14:15:20 UTC  

I'm asking why should that be the standard which makes something moral/immoral

2020-02-11 14:15:31 UTC  

Reason