Message from @Maksim

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2020-01-03 02:21:42 UTC  

Free Markets mean corporations will always attempt to make as much money as possible

2020-01-03 02:22:04 UTC  

Not necessarily, again, workarounds can exist

2020-01-03 02:22:23 UTC  

A free market can exist without the free exploitation of resources

2020-01-03 02:22:25 UTC  

This means they will inevitably drift towards consumerism, greed, unethical marketing, etc

2020-01-03 02:22:37 UTC  

Can you show me a real example of one?

2020-01-03 02:22:45 UTC  

Which has been tested by time?

2020-01-03 02:23:03 UTC  

don't have to, i said they can exist.

2020-01-03 02:23:15 UTC  

Im talking realistically

2020-01-03 02:23:34 UTC  

me too <a:shruganimated:421995622346784768> , a lack of imagination or insight is not an argument

2020-01-03 02:23:37 UTC  

Here let me copy paste my economic policy so you understand where im coming from

2020-01-03 02:23:39 UTC  

i've laid out the concept

2020-01-03 02:24:22 UTC  

Ah shit i dont have it, hol up let me write it.

2020-01-03 02:26:20 UTC  

In summary, private industry is allowed to exist but if they in any way act against the intrests of the state or betray the people (price hike, artificially limiting supply, unethical marketing tactic, promoting moral degeneracy, poor working conditions, not keeping wages up with inflation and buying power, etc etc) then the CEOs are executed and the company nationalized.

2020-01-03 02:26:55 UTC  

No company would want to exist in that hellhole

2020-01-03 02:27:03 UTC  

Except you're wrong

2020-01-03 02:27:10 UTC  

war-time germany

2020-01-03 02:27:50 UTC  

I said want. Being coerced with force is not free choice

2020-01-03 02:27:57 UTC  

And even if they didnt, social polarization would lead to a point where it's either that or the communists completley cease all private property and industry

2020-01-03 02:28:01 UTC  

Who cares about what they want?

2020-01-03 02:28:08 UTC  

Markets.

2020-01-03 02:28:12 UTC  

I dont care.

2020-01-03 02:28:20 UTC  

The intrestss of the state and people come first.

2020-01-03 02:28:26 UTC  

a culture is influenced by things such as politics and economics as well as history, if your from lets say the USSR in the 1950 you have the history of being a socialist revolutionary, but if you reject socialist doctrine and you reject there economics and culture that is dialectical and historical materialism you are not really part of that culture are you
Everything that makes up a culture is subject to change
EVERYTHING
I mean the west used to be pagan, and I think it is fair at this point to say it used to be christian, all of which caused MASSIVELY different cultures
by default since a culture is subject to change
and a culture can change because people in the culture change, this means peopel alter culture and change how they think and thus people can adopt different cultures.

@Maksim

How do you respond?

2020-01-03 02:28:56 UTC  
2020-01-03 02:29:13 UTC  

Not caring is not an argument. Besides, you just basically laid the foundation for an authoritarian system, not whatever culture is, so it has no relevancy to the actual discussion

2020-01-03 02:29:15 UTC  

if you accept what i say you can't be an ethno-nationalist

2020-01-03 02:29:20 UTC  

@Clincoin Yes it is.

2020-01-03 02:29:32 UTC  
2020-01-03 02:29:33 UTC  

Say in one sentence how it has relevancy

2020-01-03 02:29:58 UTC  

@Maksim why ```and thus people can adopt different cultures.``` This means culture is not tied to race

2020-01-03 02:30:03 UTC  

@Clincoin Because since i dont care, that ends the argument about care of the markets -the market's input on the matter is irrelevant.

2020-01-03 02:30:26 UTC  

So you negate the entire discussion because you say you don't care. Then why pose it in the first place

2020-01-03 02:30:28 UTC  

@Chief Rocket Designer No, its the same culture and people that change in of themselves

2020-01-03 02:30:33 UTC  

waste of my time smh

2020-01-03 02:30:41 UTC  

@Clincoin I said I dont care about the Market's input

2020-01-03 02:30:45 UTC  

Of what they want

2020-01-03 02:31:00 UTC  

Not caring is not an argument. Besides, you just basically laid the foundation for an authoritarian system, not whatever culture is, so it has no relevancy to the actual discussion
Say in one sentence how it has relevancy

2020-01-03 02:31:17 UTC  

Who said it isnt?

2020-01-03 02:32:23 UTC  

Now prove that concept is feasible, how would it work.

2020-01-03 02:32:47 UTC  

@Maksim where is my logic wrong