Message from @Clincoin

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2020-01-03 02:13:45 UTC  

Then drop it.

2020-01-03 02:13:48 UTC  

And how do you expect me to have evidence that you banned me because i destroyed you, why would i screenshot my argument with you prior to getting banned? When i got banned i couldn't have collected evidence since i was banned

2020-01-03 02:13:49 UTC  

No

2020-01-03 02:14:56 UTC  

@Clincoin Capitalism being free-markets and consumerism.

Nationalism being the preservation and valuation of one's culture and moral code.

2020-01-03 02:15:59 UTC  

What type of free market, do you mean absolute free markets or with anti-monopoly action?
Also, what do you define as culture under nationalism? morals i get, but culture is very vague.

2020-01-03 02:16:43 UTC  

Either.
Culture is an irrational concept, one simply knows it can it usually cannot be quantified. One knows if he is in or out of it.

2020-01-03 02:17:39 UTC  

Why can't it be quantified

2020-01-03 02:18:21 UTC  

I just explained

2020-01-03 02:18:42 UTC  

well do it again

2020-01-03 02:18:46 UTC  

No

2020-01-03 02:18:53 UTC  

just ctrl-v

2020-01-03 02:19:01 UTC  

You can have free markets without allowing international markets to have influence in theory, so i'd say they can with workarounds definetely be compatible

2020-01-03 02:19:23 UTC  

But if you have free markets with outside influences then surely no

2020-01-03 02:19:55 UTC  

I'd figure either evaluated capitalism or mixed economics.

2020-01-03 02:20:18 UTC  

Classic Fascist

2020-01-03 02:20:37 UTC  

yes.

2020-01-03 02:20:38 UTC  

@Clincoin It's not just international markets

2020-01-03 02:21:25 UTC  

Well if markets influence culture, that which we cannot know what is, then we cannot discuss it

2020-01-03 02:21:32 UTC  

too little knowledge

2020-01-03 02:21:42 UTC  

Free Markets mean corporations will always attempt to make as much money as possible

2020-01-03 02:22:04 UTC  

Not necessarily, again, workarounds can exist

2020-01-03 02:22:23 UTC  

A free market can exist without the free exploitation of resources

2020-01-03 02:22:25 UTC  

This means they will inevitably drift towards consumerism, greed, unethical marketing, etc

2020-01-03 02:22:37 UTC  

Can you show me a real example of one?

2020-01-03 02:22:45 UTC  

Which has been tested by time?

2020-01-03 02:23:03 UTC  

don't have to, i said they can exist.

2020-01-03 02:23:15 UTC  

Im talking realistically

2020-01-03 02:23:34 UTC  

me too <a:shruganimated:421995622346784768> , a lack of imagination or insight is not an argument

2020-01-03 02:23:37 UTC  

Here let me copy paste my economic policy so you understand where im coming from

2020-01-03 02:23:39 UTC  

i've laid out the concept

2020-01-03 02:24:22 UTC  

Ah shit i dont have it, hol up let me write it.

2020-01-03 02:26:20 UTC  

In summary, private industry is allowed to exist but if they in any way act against the intrests of the state or betray the people (price hike, artificially limiting supply, unethical marketing tactic, promoting moral degeneracy, poor working conditions, not keeping wages up with inflation and buying power, etc etc) then the CEOs are executed and the company nationalized.

2020-01-03 02:26:55 UTC  

No company would want to exist in that hellhole

2020-01-03 02:27:03 UTC  

Except you're wrong

2020-01-03 02:27:10 UTC  

war-time germany

2020-01-03 02:27:50 UTC  

I said want. Being coerced with force is not free choice

2020-01-03 02:27:57 UTC  

And even if they didnt, social polarization would lead to a point where it's either that or the communists completley cease all private property and industry

2020-01-03 02:28:01 UTC  

Who cares about what they want?

2020-01-03 02:28:08 UTC  

Markets.

2020-01-03 02:28:12 UTC  

I dont care.

2020-01-03 02:28:20 UTC  

The intrestss of the state and people come first.