Message from @Dysk

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2019-03-09 17:13:32 UTC  

Yeah the baby died in a wartorn shithole because of the mother but still

2019-03-09 17:13:45 UTC  

Don't you want to take in more radicalized migrants now yet, racist? Huh, racist?

2019-03-09 18:36:32 UTC  

hi

2019-03-09 18:36:59 UTC  

Hello

2019-03-09 18:37:02 UTC  

Welcome.

2019-03-09 18:37:09 UTC  

thank you

2019-03-09 18:37:18 UTC  

😃

2019-03-09 18:37:23 UTC  

😄

2019-03-09 18:39:00 UTC  

andrew yang has been poppiing up on my youtube

2019-03-09 18:41:16 UTC  

i think he points to real issues but not sure ubi is the best thing

2019-03-09 18:42:54 UTC  

The main problem with UBI, is that the market adjusts to take it into account.

2019-03-09 18:43:34 UTC  

After a few short years, everything has changed in price, and price inflation means the UBI dividend is useless.

2019-03-09 18:43:36 UTC  

yes... tim pool said the same thing, inflation basically

2019-03-09 18:44:03 UTC  

Yes, exactly what Tim said.

2019-03-09 18:44:13 UTC  

they will have to raise it, it's basically an alternative to minimum wage, which is useless too

2019-03-09 18:44:32 UTC  

and in the short term minimum wage seems to be harmful too

2019-03-09 18:44:49 UTC  

imagine not taking the yangbux to build Ted Shed 2: No electric boogaloo

2019-03-09 18:45:24 UTC  

I would argue UBI is actually way worse than the minimum wage, because it causes massive government deficient and wrecks the economy, all in one fell swoop.

2019-03-09 18:45:59 UTC  

well it has never been tried on this large a scale but i don't volunteer to be the first

2019-03-09 18:47:06 UTC  

They tried a pretty large trial in Finland, and it was shown that the only benefit from the program was that the people involved were "happier".

2019-03-09 18:47:41 UTC  

Fairly obviously, getting free cash makes people happy in the short term lol

2019-03-09 18:47:41 UTC  

over time is important too

2019-03-09 18:47:51 UTC  

10 years

2019-03-09 18:48:24 UTC  

it didn't help the unemployed get jobs or something?

2019-03-09 18:51:10 UTC  

i used to be for ubi/bernie

2019-03-09 18:51:16 UTC  

pre 2016

2019-03-09 18:51:38 UTC  

They thought it would, but it had no effect on jobs in the trial.

2019-03-09 18:52:11 UTC  

i didn't vote for trump in 2016 but i probably will in 2020

2019-03-09 18:53:32 UTC  

yeah

2019-03-09 18:54:08 UTC  

it is not different from welfare for unemployed people

2019-03-09 18:54:15 UTC  

the difference with ubi is everyone gets it

2019-03-09 18:54:23 UTC  

welfare does not encourage employment

2019-03-09 18:54:46 UTC  

although welfare *discourages* employment by being afraid to get your welfare taken away if you get a job

2019-03-09 18:54:54 UTC  

which i think is why i supported it

2019-03-09 18:55:07 UTC  

i suppose it doesn't play out in the short term

2019-03-09 18:55:28 UTC  

but i think inflation seems like a problem that could occur

2019-03-09 18:56:28 UTC  

Ideally welfare should be seen as no more than a safety net to stop people literally starving to death.

2019-03-09 18:56:35 UTC  

yeah

2019-03-09 18:57:04 UTC  

UBI is pretty much just "hey if you vote for me, I will give you free money".

2019-03-09 18:57:30 UTC  

There is no real indication it works as an actual policy.

2019-03-09 18:58:09 UTC  

yeah