Message from @!AAmazing Hoping
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What happens later is another matter.
why would society not collapse?
any number of things could end it all right now
it would restructure
and eventually be communist
how does something restructure itself if it ceases to exist
do you mean the human species going extinct or society collapsing? i see that as two different things, and humans always organize into societies and subsocieties
would you not say humans going extinct is the collapse of society?
thats what im asking you. i would say that, yes. but im wondering if youre talking about the end of humanity or not
sure let's say that
sorry if that was unclear lol
if humanity ended then yeah i guess
but well try darn hard to not go extinct
it wont be easy i think
it wouldn't be hard either
if humanity ended, then yes, communism is not inevitable. but im working on the firm belief that humanity wont end soon, assuming we address and deal with existential threats
which most of us do
i should wonder if there are climate change deniers here or not
i seem to remember there are but i could be mixing up servers
climate change is an example of an existential threat that humans have addressed and are mostly dealing with
anti-vaxxer is the new climate change denier
what do you think a communist society would be like?
i'm afraid it could be terribly boring
there are also plain old climate change deniers but the resurgance of diseases might be considered an existential threat
a lot of people once they retire no longer know what to do and just waste away
there are also some ultra wealthy who after reaching that pinnacle start becoming nihilist
hopefully people in this society will have a lot of freedom. the communist part is that there are specialists dividing resources up among all the people people and planning production. so a more accurate term might be democratic socialism or, as i said earlier, technocracy. but it could certainly be called communist.
i imagine videogames, movies, music and art will become the normal form of entertainment. education too i imagine
certainly sports as well
everyone would be retired but could volunteer to do unnecessary jobs likely. it would be 100% voluntary, unless you count peer pressure
it could be fun tbh
Then we could devote all our time to the advancement of human knowledge
yeah
Which would be super cool
Oh yeah then we might end up with transhumanism
Which would be interesting to say the least
Hey Morty, check this out!
@Leo (BillNyeLand) Visitor that automation advancing in rapid ways is the very long term, the UBI will cause inflation due to the reason above. I don't think Vat is a good way of "reducing overspending", not that all spending done naturally isn't "over" or "under", the best way is to abolish the fed and let the market control the interest rates, this will incentivise savings as the supply of real loanable funds will be low and interest rates will be high.
Yeah UBI is not tested but thats most likely what will happen, read above on why people getting $1k a year would cause problems.