Message from @!AAmazing Hoping

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2019-03-10 16:23:13 UTC  

If increasing money supply leads to demand still below production capacity, inflation won’t become cyclical

2019-03-10 16:27:02 UTC  

andrew yang's version of ubi says you can keep your existing welfare

2019-03-10 16:27:06 UTC  

if you prefer that

2019-03-10 16:27:41 UTC  

i'm sure there are some versions of ubi that make more sense than our current welfare system

2019-03-10 16:28:24 UTC  

well, maybe

2019-03-10 16:30:06 UTC  

a critisism of ubi is that if you replace welfare with ubi, that it takes away from those who actually can't work and need it the most

2019-03-10 16:30:37 UTC  

if you keep welfare and add ubi on top of it that seems incredibly expensive

2019-03-10 16:45:53 UTC  

i just don't see a problem to be fixed, what is the problem to which UBI is the solution? we can reform welfare

2019-03-10 16:46:10 UTC  

low-inflation-low-growth enviornment? huh? isn't the economy doing great?

2019-03-10 18:23:22 UTC  

Visitor that is a recipe\ for disasters, QEs are horrible

2019-03-10 18:23:40 UTC  

@Eno_ UBI might be as bad as a minimum wage

2019-03-10 21:15:44 UTC  

UBI will eliminate the need for a minimum wage

2019-03-10 21:15:45 UTC  

But ok

2019-03-10 21:21:01 UTC  

Hell yeah

2019-03-10 22:01:24 UTC  

But UBI produces the same benefit to everyone

2019-03-10 22:01:37 UTC  

Now you could supplement that with disability income for those who can’t work if you want

2019-03-10 22:01:41 UTC  

Idk

2019-03-10 22:01:57 UTC  

And that’s what QE4P would seek to reform @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

2019-03-11 09:29:14 UTC  

UBI like the equally destructive Minimum Wage incentivises people to demand higher wages and guess what higher wages do? They incentivise employers to hire less and invest more in labor saving technology. Then to make matters worse because the funding for UBI comes completely out of one of these methods of destruction:
1. Taxes-Employers cut back in the here and now thus reducing the number of wage earners
2. Inflation-Employers attempt to invest more in technology now to eliminate labor in the future

There are other problems too, UBI also strips consumers of the ability to dictate the market. In the marketplace wealth is earned by generating value. When someone purchases a good, they’ve earned the money they are spending by having produced something. This is not the case with welfare programs like UBI. Money is forcibly taken from those who have produced enough to earn it, and given to those who haven’t. This allows for people who aren’t producing wealth to continue to consume goods. Eventually all government welfare leads to the consumption of wealth, or at the very least, a reduction in the amount of wealth that would have been accumulated otherwise. When entrepreneurs have less need to respond to the needs and desires of their customers, consumers will find themselves with fewer choices and with inferior choices. This means that overall welfare makes everyone poorer than they would have been in a free market

@Anon365 there’s many problems with the UBI but that’s a few of them. It can be equally as bad as minimum wage

2019-03-11 09:30:46 UTC  

And I doubt it’ll be stopping at 1k a month, a bit like how the income tax was supposed to stay at 1%.

2019-03-11 09:48:06 UTC  

Just saying, the top tax rate was never supposed to stay at 1%

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418667927169138688/554601435547959297/image0.png

2019-03-11 09:48:39 UTC  

Yeah I mean it was the highest it was going to get

2019-03-11 09:48:42 UTC  

7-1%

2019-03-11 09:48:46 UTC  

That’s what they said atleast

2019-03-11 09:50:57 UTC  

The highest lowest tax rate?

2019-03-11 09:55:54 UTC  

Ya

2019-03-11 10:41:15 UTC  

My mom believes in white male privilege.

2019-03-11 10:41:42 UTC  

Tried to explain how it's not real because black people can and have become extreme successes.

2019-03-11 10:41:52 UTC  

LeBron James.

2019-03-11 10:42:17 UTC  

Bad president Obama.

2019-03-11 10:42:28 UTC  

Etc.

2019-03-11 10:42:43 UTC  

Honestly this liberal plague even divides families.

2019-03-11 10:43:03 UTC  

One side of my family are right wing or a little right some left.

2019-03-11 10:43:19 UTC  

The other side is left and a few right wing

2019-03-11 10:43:47 UTC  

My parents divorced because my dad did nothing.

2019-03-11 10:44:02 UTC  

Yet working over 1 job and paying for everything is helping.

2019-03-11 12:54:33 UTC  

"White privilege" unironically exists

2019-03-11 12:55:21 UTC  

It's just in-group preference and whites are the majority so they enjoy the benefits of most people in the country having a favorable bias towards them