Message from @Leiro レイロ

Discord ID: 513339413871460352


2018-11-17 13:02:07 UTC  

not school

2018-11-17 13:03:20 UTC  

most people only become socialist after school, and lgbtq socialists are not counted

2018-11-17 13:03:30 UTC  

we have to expose them to more socialist content

2018-11-17 13:03:31 UTC  

Why not

2018-11-17 13:03:43 UTC  

More support is better right?

2018-11-17 13:03:50 UTC  

they don't represent our movement, they have hijacked it essentially

2018-11-17 13:03:55 UTC  

to suit their own agenda

2018-11-17 13:04:00 UTC  

It's still more support

2018-11-17 13:04:01 UTC  

I'm of the opinion that literally no one needs my money more than I do.

2018-11-17 13:04:12 UTC  

we don't want your money sorry

2018-11-17 13:04:25 UTC  

What do you want, exactly, then.

2018-11-17 13:04:50 UTC  

Socialism

2018-11-17 13:04:55 UTC  

we just want the MOP to be held communally by the workers, and to transition from capitalism to socialism, we do not care about taking the capital of every other citizen, that's a big misconception

2018-11-17 13:05:00 UTC  

And I would say you are wrong there too Hapless

2018-11-17 13:05:25 UTC  

I would see that people that don't have their basic needs satisfied need money more then somebody who has lots extra.

2018-11-17 13:06:35 UTC  

as well as equal access to education and jobs and healthcare and more.

2018-11-17 13:06:52 UTC  

@Leiro レイロ But so much of the economy these days doesn't have a "means of production"

2018-11-17 13:07:10 UTC  

Like, we're not all Soviet workers in foundries and forges anymore.

2018-11-17 13:07:16 UTC  

lets just fucking shoot trump

2018-11-17 13:07:18 UTC  

There's not always a piece of machinery to own.

2018-11-17 13:07:33 UTC  

what do you mean, don't have a means of production? Literally most capital is owned by the bourgeois capitalists

2018-11-17 13:07:40 UTC  

Means of production isn't only machines

2018-11-17 13:07:40 UTC  

nowdays

2018-11-17 13:07:54 UTC  

MOP dosent necessarily mean tools or machines

2018-11-17 13:08:17 UTC  

you seem to have a common misconception of socialism

2018-11-17 13:08:24 UTC  

looks like I gotta get rid of that

2018-11-17 13:09:41 UTC  

and yes @HaplessOperator it's also a misconception that everyone earns the same, don't believe that shit.

2018-11-17 13:10:30 UTC  

So, say, for an agency like... Boeing, for example

2018-11-17 13:10:36 UTC  

What would the means of production be

2018-11-17 13:12:14 UTC  

ur mom

2018-11-17 13:13:05 UTC  

Well for boeing, it would be anyone who works for boeing

2018-11-17 13:13:24 UTC  

like aerospace engineers and more

2018-11-17 13:14:15 UTC  

oh wait I misinterpreted

2018-11-17 13:14:28 UTC  

it would be the capital owned by boeing, as well as all facilities and such

2018-11-17 13:15:18 UTC  

Workstations, laptops, radios...

2018-11-17 13:15:40 UTC  

The guns, working dogs...

2018-11-17 13:15:45 UTC  

Well yes, but they may not necessarily be owned by boeing itself if their personal property

2018-11-17 13:15:50 UTC  

guns and dogs?

2018-11-17 13:16:19 UTC  

What about the ambulances and medical equipment.

2018-11-17 13:16:34 UTC  

And the fire trucks.

2018-11-17 13:17:01 UTC  

they would be owned by the respective agency, unless their facilities have inhouse medical equipment and fire trucks