Message from @Pepin
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It is, and has been for the last 200 years
Are you fan of Tucker Carlson?
I like some of things, but not really
I’m sleepy
And he is very wrong on economics
Maybe get some rest?
But yeah, I'm a tom woods guy
If you look at the backdrop we automated away 4 million jobs in Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Missouri. And those communities have never recovered.
Where if you look at the numbers. Half of the workers left the work force and never worked again.
And then half of that group filed for disabilities
Yeah, that's shit. But you can't solve that with an UBI, nor is that necessary a national problem
Source please
Question, do you support the tariffs?
I don't do sources. waste of time. Hopefully you don't need a source to understand that this automation will happen to truckdrivers, retail workers, fast food workers. On and on and on through the economy.
As we evolve in technology we marginalize the labor of more and more Americans
Okay, so I'm supposed to take your word as truth that half the work force never worked again?
The automation of jobs seems a bit too obvious for me to waste time finding where I read it
But...that's completely factually incorrect. At the dawn of the 20th century, agriculture was the biggest sector, now it's less than 1%. That's not a bad thing for the economy.
I mean the part about half the work force never working again
But the automation means that you get those things for cheaper. Think about the hours of meaningless paperwork now saved. Yes, I'm not saying that people laid off will find it easy, but it's about looking at where people are hiring, and making informed decisions. Making sure you know mutiple different skills, that you aren't just good for one industry. Being able to jump, having something in the back pocket
I remember the idea in Washington is that they will all become computer programmers and so everything would be fine. But it didn't happen. I personally think it would be insane to watch this automation wave over take our country and economy.
No, not everyone will enter the same industry. It's about individual decisions not commands from on high
Yes, and the luddites said the same thing in the 19th century
what's your solution? Ban machines?
We don't have to be ostrages with our heads in the sand. We can say "look we get it, artificial intelligence is real self driving trucks and cars are being tested on the highways right now. And we need to evolve
Yes, I agree. But your way of evolving isn't evolution, it's the same old solutions
Statism never works
We need to start pushing the way we think of economic process to include how our families are doing, how are children are doing. And things that actually matter to the American people.
Define pushing the way we think of the economic process
tell me your solutions
GDP is going to lead us off a cliff for many American communities
GDP is a false measurement, agreed.
Robot trucks are great for the GDP. Terrible for many many American communities. So we need to get with the program and figure out how to actually make this economy work for the people.
Dude, self-driving trucks are good for people.
It's the number one job in America...
You are making meaningless assertions without offering *solutions*. Dude, you need to tell me what are you proposing as a solution
bullshit, source
Automation didn’t kill jobs
Nor will it
I don't know the solution man. Yangs main goal in his campaign to tell people the numbers and the devastation it will have to so many Americans. I will try to find you a source if I have time. You sound curious so I suggest researching a little big on how automation has never recovered the rust belt
Automation creates more jobs