We don't work to work, we work to have a better life. But the division of labour is a thing, and specialisation. With automation, we will just have more jobs in different sectors, maybe in another sector that doesn't exist yet

This would be devastating unless you're a CEO in a big liberal city

Well most jobs in a big city

But that's not the reality

I want a source for the number of truck drivers, but I don't see how it is bad to have cheaper transport costs. And they can train to get into a new profession, or maybe the jobs won't all disappear overnight, because it's a gradual change

It is, and has been for the last 200 years

Are you fan of Tucker Carlson?

I like some of things, but not really

I’m sleepy

And he is very wrong on economics

Maybe get some rest?

But yeah, I'm a tom woods guy

If you look at the backdrop we automated away 4 million jobs in Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Missouri. And those communities have never recovered.

Where if you look at the numbers. Half of the workers left the work force and never worked again.

And then half of that group filed for disabilities

Yeah, that's shit. But you can't solve that with an UBI, nor is that necessary a national problem

Source please

Question, do you support the tariffs?

I don't do sources. waste of time. Hopefully you don't need a source to understand that this automation will happen to truckdrivers, retail workers, fast food workers. On and on and on through the economy.

As we evolve in technology we marginalize the labor of more and more Americans

Okay, so I'm supposed to take your word as truth that half the work force never worked again?

The automation of jobs seems a bit too obvious for me to waste time finding where I read it

But...that's completely factually incorrect. At the dawn of the 20th century, agriculture was the biggest sector, now it's less than 1%. That's not a bad thing for the economy.

I mean the part about half the work force never working again

But the automation means that you get those things for cheaper. Think about the hours of meaningless paperwork now saved. Yes, I'm not saying that people laid off will find it easy, but it's about looking at where people are hiring, and making informed decisions. Making sure you know mutiple different skills, that you aren't just good for one industry. Being able to jump, having something in the back pocket

I remember the idea in Washington is that they will all become computer programmers and so everything would be fine. But it didn't happen. I personally think it would be insane to watch this automation wave over take our country and economy.

No, not everyone will enter the same industry. It's about individual decisions not commands from on high

Yes, and the luddites said the same thing in the 19th century

what's your solution? Ban machines?

We don't have to be ostrages with our heads in the sand. We can say "look we get it, artificial intelligence is real self driving trucks and cars are being tested on the highways right now. And we need to evolve

Yes, I agree. But your way of evolving isn't evolution, it's the same old solutions

Statism never works

We need to start pushing the way we think of economic process to include how our families are doing, how are children are doing. And things that actually matter to the American people.

Define pushing the way we think of the economic process

tell me your solutions

GDP is going to lead us off a cliff for many American communities

GDP is a false measurement, agreed.

Robot trucks are great for the GDP. Terrible for many many American communities. So we need to get with the program and figure out how to actually make this economy work for the people.

Dude, self-driving trucks are good for people.

It's the number one job in America...

You are making meaningless assertions without offering *solutions*. Dude, you need to tell me what are you proposing as a solution