For the record, I don't think invite only is the way to go, probably just end up with an echo chamber

^^^ prezactly

Over time, admin roles will be assigned to those who can be trusted the most. @AcidOverride is the kingpin here.

Please use the link from Twitter and feel free to invite more people.

well can we get right to chatting or is there already a topic planned ?

The topic is the decriminilization of cannabis in Z

ZA

Chat about whatever you want. The tagline of this room gives some theme ideas. It's all yours.

I'll begin with something.

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) dont let Helen hear you say that 😄

Is Helen anti decrminilization? If that is the case I am anti Helen!

I would like opinions on whether SA has a center (seems we have far left and far right), who would you say represents the center either as a party or public figure

@Jerm I hae always felt that IRR has an agenda (one that works in wipet-pooh's favour), but they do seem biased.

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) well i wouldn't say anti but @Rendier had mos a debate/live chat with her and the last topic was that and she was against it...because she is right in a way that weed kills motivation.....but my argument is parkie gras kills motivation and not indoor/greenhouse

@Robzombie I stopped folowing his stuff, it is all just ainstream rhetoric.

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) i feel you...same as Willem PLezter....it is starting to feel like they are just doing these live streams to get publicity

@Robzombie You made me queue this tune 🤘 https://youtu.be/7SSDZHZHYvM

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https://discord.gg/3Dec43t

@Jerm they definitely have influence, the question is whether it is unhealthy. There seem to be a handful of organisations publishing fact based "thought leadership" pieces. One would imagine it is wise to let these pieces influence policy or not.

Maybe political parties don't do a good enough job of publishing the thinking that goes into their policy making... too much time selling the policy

*scratch the or not*

I think the IRR is a very important organisation, only wanting the best. They focus on data primarily.

can we really trust IRR? hell can we really trust anything that is politically connected in SA?

@Robzombie I trust no-one, but at least they present facts that can be checked

I like them, but they definitely have a bias

@Robzombie yes you can trust them. I trust them. I know them personally too.

IRR is not political. They're completely independent.

I have come to learn that we cannot trust AgriSA or Die Broederbond, I am weary of everyone these days.

@Tom_Servo I am with you, i don't trust any Org in SA anymore, as they all lack transparency....but i can say one thing though, i bought Frans Cronje's second book, and it is quite amazing and actually gives a nice perspective of whats going on in the country and funny enough, its not biased at all

time travellers guide ?

@Tom_Servo yeah that one

I think the IRR are transparent though

@AcidOverride Will you enable attachments (jpeg's) in messages please.

just have an agenda it seems

I don't think Shelley Garland helped with that perception (although I loved it)

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) why not trust AgriSA and BB?

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) Done