Message from @Tom_Servo

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2018-08-13 13:36:00 UTC  

Your arguments have been around the way he talks about women, for example.

2018-08-13 13:36:14 UTC  

There's nothing wrong with the way he talks about women.

2018-08-13 13:36:19 UTC  

nope, that was one point... out of many

2018-08-13 13:36:37 UTC  

Yea the economy got a boost from a trump victory, but he still hasn’t fixed the biggest problem which is over spending. Plus if Clinton won I’m pretty sure North Korea would be gone by now😂

2018-08-13 13:37:12 UTC  

main thrust of why I say he is a bad leader is because he is untrustworthy and deliberately divisive

2018-08-13 13:37:13 UTC  

So @Tom_Servo , what exactly are you arguing?

2018-08-13 13:37:24 UTC  

@Tom_Servo that's an opinion.

2018-08-13 13:37:35 UTC  

based on evidence

2018-08-13 13:37:45 UTC  

False.

2018-08-13 13:38:02 UTC  

okay, so you would say Trump is not divisive and no more dishonest than any other leader?

2018-08-13 13:38:06 UTC  

To say "bad leader" is a moral judgement. Moral judgements are subjective.

2018-08-13 13:38:14 UTC  

@Tom_Servo he’s a pretty good leader, and I’m saying that as someone who isn’t a big fan of trump

2018-08-13 13:39:08 UTC  

of course it is subjective thats what an opinion is, that doesnt make it something not rooted in evidence though

2018-08-13 13:39:12 UTC  

Millions will argue that he is a good leader.

2018-08-13 13:39:16 UTC  

just facts less important to you than me

2018-08-13 13:39:26 UTC  

Arguing over him being good or bad is silly.

2018-08-13 13:39:36 UTC  

You're using moral judgements - not facts.

2018-08-13 13:39:38 UTC  

you asked the question mate

2018-08-13 13:40:06 UTC  

This is a fact:

Has federal spending increased or decreased?

2018-08-13 13:40:15 UTC  

This is not a fact:

"He is a bad leader."

2018-08-13 13:40:45 UTC  

fair enough... that was my opinion, but I thought the rest of my point explained why I have that opinion

2018-08-13 13:40:56 UTC  

trustworthiness can be proved

2018-08-13 13:40:59 UTC  

I like Trump because he is not afraid to speak and is not PC... That is being fearless in my opinion

2018-08-13 13:41:04 UTC  

his divisiveness can be proved

2018-08-13 13:41:10 UTC  

Great. Good for you. 😂

2018-08-13 13:41:26 UTC  

I like Trump and think he's doing a great job at annoying the media. That's my opinion.

2018-08-13 13:41:41 UTC  

58 million voted for him.

2018-08-13 13:41:54 UTC  

I only like trump because he is a trolling legend😂

2018-08-13 13:42:17 UTC  

We should all end our comments with "in my opinion"

2018-08-13 13:42:40 UTC  

Arguing over him being a good or bad leader is hilariously stupid.

2018-08-13 13:42:53 UTC  

What do the markets say?

Let's go look.

2018-08-13 13:43:15 UTC  

@Jerm it is hillarious that you do exactly what you accuse the left of

2018-08-13 13:43:21 UTC  

"I don't like him because he's divisive."

2018-08-13 13:43:48 UTC  

Bush was divisive.

2018-08-13 13:44:03 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/477183088141533209/478559363401777165/image.jpg

2018-08-13 13:44:05 UTC  

Because he headed up a party that was in opposition to another party.

2018-08-13 13:44:07 UTC  

not deliberately to shore up power

2018-08-13 13:44:16 UTC  

To be honest, all leaders are divisive

2018-08-13 13:44:35 UTC  

he was divisive on policy

2018-08-13 13:44:40 UTC  

If you are part of a party with views that differ from another, OF COURSE you will be divisive.

2018-08-13 13:44:58 UTC  

What's wrong with being divisive?