Message from @Tom_Servo
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Because he headed up a party that was in opposition to another party.
not deliberately to shore up power
To be honest, all leaders are divisive
he was divisive on policy
If you are part of a party with views that differ from another, OF COURSE you will be divisive.
What's wrong with being divisive?
Helen Zille is divisive.
nothing... I didn't realise that I would have to be so specific in everything I said here. The implication was that deliberate divisiveness is what I have an issue with
I do not think it is sustainable
in the long term, and feeds into identity politics
Welcome to politics, mate. 😃
That's why I oppose government.
I don't want to be led.
@Jerm agreed
But Trump is a master troll, and that makes him fantastic.
So trolling is your criteria for good leadership
yup we are going to differ on that one
The pot needs to be stirred to ensure the food doesnt get burnt
fantastic is not?
Fantastic to witness.
well if good or bad leadership can't be defined then what is the point?
Let’s be honest, it’s amazing to see trump call CNN fake news.
do you feel the same when the EFF says it when the media pans them @freeplasma_africa
@Jerm I didnt say it did? This is a discussion forum about politics and identity politics
hard to discuss opinions without venturing one
A better discussion might be whether or not the economy is sinking due to his policies. The current evidence suggests that it isn't sinking at all.
@Jerm all I did was say why I thought trump was a bad leader. An opinion which I gave reasons for.
i think it was more framed as why I dont like him
I'm sure he is a bad leader in many respects.
why do you ask questions you dont want to hear answers too?
or do you just want people to echo your opinions?
Jerm : Why dont you like trump
ME: Because XYZ
Jerm : No one cares
fact - supported by data..... he lies more than other politicians... a lot more
Okay fine. He lies a lot.
Who cares if Zuma lied a lot. What matters is this.
Compared to this.
honesty indicates to me how someone will conduct business and deal with the power that office gives you. Zuma is a great example. His dishonesty along with a mobilised supporter base that would defend anything he did laid the path for unprecedented state capture. Based on what we have experienced in this country I am weary of leaders who exhibit these brazen levels of dishonesty and are able to unite large portions of the population by being deliberately divisive towards the rest.