Message from @Tom_Servo

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2018-08-13 14:17:45 UTC  

or politician

2018-08-13 14:18:07 UTC  

would you agree that Zuma's corruption was on another level to Mbeki's corruption?

2018-08-13 14:18:13 UTC  

yet they were both corrupt

2018-08-13 14:18:44 UTC  

your argument is like saying, well they are all corrupt so we can just except the ridiculous turbo level corruption then

2018-08-13 14:19:20 UTC  

corruption is like a circle, whether it is big or small, it is still 360 degrees...

2018-08-13 14:20:09 UTC  

accept not except

2018-08-13 14:20:43 UTC  

No for sure, corrupt is corrupt and lies are lies.

2018-08-13 14:21:45 UTC  

Zuma's first few years were actually very unstable.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/477183088141533209/478568850988859402/Screenshot_2018-08-13_at_16.20.56.jpg

2018-08-13 14:22:05 UTC  

@Jerm please show the numbers on the right

2018-08-13 14:22:10 UTC  

it was just 2009

2018-08-13 14:22:17 UTC  

the rest were fairly stable

2018-08-13 14:22:40 UTC  

The massive dip shows instability. After that was stable, yes.

2018-08-13 14:22:40 UTC  

between 2.3 and 3.5 most of the way

2018-08-13 14:23:08 UTC  

ag come on... you cant say massive and then remove figures

2018-08-13 14:23:18 UTC  

Between 2009 and 2011 were unstable for the SA economy.

2018-08-13 14:23:48 UTC  

Therefore, his first few years were not "didnt look so bad either".

2018-08-13 14:24:03 UTC  

At the time, they were horrid.

2018-08-13 14:24:26 UTC  

Yeah Stability, but no growth

2018-08-13 14:24:38 UTC  

is anyone going to expand on context

2018-08-13 14:24:55 UTC  

or are you just going to pretend that that was a direct and immediate result of zumas election?

2018-08-13 14:25:21 UTC  

there is no point in discussing if you are going to actively ignore facts because they dont support your position

2018-08-13 14:25:39 UTC  

you dont have to guess

2018-08-13 14:25:41 UTC  

there is data

2018-08-13 14:25:42 UTC  

Well Zumas presidency started on the axing of Mbeki, so of course there would be some turmoil

2018-08-13 14:25:56 UTC  

which I know you love

2018-08-13 14:26:03 UTC  

why do choose to ignore this data?

2018-08-13 14:27:40 UTC  

China, same period as SA's massive dip.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/477183088141533209/478570340872749056/Screenshot_2018-08-13_at_16.27.18.jpg

2018-08-13 14:27:49 UTC  

to drift from this.....

This is the problem, with world politics at the moment... Being unable to concede that Trumps crazy levels of dishonesty, could be a risk to business is a good example of identity politics.

2018-08-13 14:28:06 UTC  

if we concede one point we feel we have to concede them all

2018-08-13 14:28:53 UTC  

economic policies are too left leaning at the moment, some weird SJW stuff going on in the world, but this planting a flag in the ground and defending everything is the real danger

2018-08-13 14:28:56 UTC  

the center is dead

2018-08-13 14:29:46 UTC  

he did a lot to kill it, but 2 years is like a fart in the wind

2018-08-13 14:29:59 UTC  

It isn't. It's 2 years.

2018-08-13 14:30:10 UTC  

2 years is more than 0 years.

2018-08-13 14:30:35 UTC  

If it isn't important, then what number would you like to start at?

2018-08-13 14:30:38 UTC  

4 years?

2018-08-13 14:30:41 UTC  

8 years?

2018-08-13 14:31:12 UTC  

Mugabe killed his economy almost, literally, overnight.

2018-08-13 14:31:25 UTC  

We should have the best idea when his first Term is concluded

2018-08-13 14:32:12 UTC  

If EWC goes ahead and our economy tanks, then are we still going to say "No, but you see, we need to wait until his first term is up before we can make any conclusions."

2018-08-13 14:32:14 UTC  

Yeah! But US and Trump are smarter than that, I think it would take time to see the affects on US markets.