Message from @crazyBoer

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2018-08-15 17:14:58 UTC  

@Andre , don't you hate that?

2018-08-15 17:32:12 UTC  

@Roovdwalt like few other things lol

2018-08-16 08:19:24 UTC  

I will kick off today with same question as day 1.... Anyone have thoughts on which personalities or parties represent the center in SA or global politics?

2018-08-16 08:19:55 UTC  

wow, that is a tough question

2018-08-16 08:20:21 UTC  

it counts 50% of your year mark

2018-08-16 08:31:22 UTC  

Well I am emphatically saying, there is none. The scale is always tilted one way or another. Especially with the introduction, growth and popularity of far right and far left, this my my opinion of course. But I do not think I am qualified to answer this 😂

2018-08-16 08:47:27 UTC  

@Tom_Servo The businessmen with money

2018-08-16 09:39:25 UTC  

Just read the last 2 days comments. RE: Trump; i'm with jerm,a lot of people especially women hate him on a personal level rather than what he is doing as a president. It's all emotions at play. "Oh he said that about women" almost all men talk about women lol women do the same about men. Do the people who wanted to vote hillary even know what her track record is,i'm glad she lost and hopefully never run again for president.

2018-08-16 09:40:44 UTC  

Some of my female friends are worse locker talkers than Trump

2018-08-16 09:46:53 UTC  

@AcidOverride that is true!!!

2018-08-16 09:56:23 UTC  

Re: Land; In 2016 i predicted zuma will be out a year before elections 2019,early 2018 is what i said when zuma will be out and ramaphosa will replace him. I predicted the anc will target farms to seize portions of it and leave the "business side/farming" intact. It seems i need to give more of my predictions😂 The mineral resource connections have been made regarding the land also,i checked out a few of them and found mining of gold/diamonds even fracking in northern cape mentioned. The companies want prospecting rights,much easier when a farmer no longer owns it. As for thinking farmers sitting back like zimbabweans did in 2000 when their farms where seized,the government must be fools.

2018-08-16 09:59:16 UTC  

If a civil war ever breaks out,it will be a full on guerilla warfare,and who is the masters of guerilla warfare who teached the world?...thats right.. us afrikaners. The british couldn't defeat the boers by military means. 600thousand british vs 40thousand boers they only won because they put our women and children in concentration camps. Jan smuts even said the war can still continue,but we had to stop due to concentration camps.All i know is If there is one guy you dont mess with that is a south african boer

2018-08-16 10:01:10 UTC  

@gonzo especially if you've put him with back against wall.

2018-08-16 10:27:59 UTC  

@Roovdwalt There has to be a center... We might just not recognise it if we call anyone to the left of us a communist and anyone to the right of us a nazi.

2018-08-16 10:29:42 UTC  

ME : I disagree with BEE
THE LEFT : You alt-right white supremist
ME : I don't think Trump is good for the US
THE RIGHT : You liberal snowflake

2018-08-16 10:31:16 UTC  

so the question remains, who represents an oke like me... my views are not homogenous with either the right or the left... I agree with each on some issues, and disagree on others.

I can't be the only one - I feel like it is an untapped market politically

2018-08-16 10:42:52 UTC  

I used to think that centrist politics were noble and good, but I've since grown up.

2018-08-16 10:44:48 UTC  

I don't see the appeal in 50/50 in all things. I am in no way centrist about EWC. It is immoral and should be opposed.

2018-08-16 10:45:15 UTC  

any news on zapiro?

2018-08-16 10:46:03 UTC  

@crazyBoer What about Zapiro?

2018-08-16 10:46:24 UTC  

the arm thing

2018-08-16 10:47:08 UTC  

@Tom_Servo I think there are many on the center, but again, "personalities or parties represent the center in SA or global politics" I am not sure, as all I know are still leaning one way or another. How do we define center? Could also be someone that Agrees with BEE but also agrees with Trump? it a weird pendulum and difficult to define

2018-08-16 10:48:01 UTC  

I'm not sure what you're asking, @crazyBoer . He declined my invitation and I said I'd draw a cartoon about it. I've not done it yet, if that's what you're asking. I've been very busy with the farm list stuff.

2018-08-16 10:48:14 UTC  

oh ok.

2018-08-16 10:48:21 UTC  

@Jerm Centarist does not mean 50/50. It's weird that you think that

2018-08-16 10:48:40 UTC  

Would you mind defining centrist?

2018-08-16 10:49:33 UTC  

I'm simply using the idea of centrist of being "in the middle". If I'm wrong, then I'm happy to use a different definition.

2018-08-16 10:50:05 UTC  

Well imm gonna play some old nes games.

2018-08-16 10:50:09 UTC  

I think being in the middle is a fair description... I think another would be compromising

2018-08-16 10:50:45 UTC  

it seems as though the far left and far right seem to agree on everything... regardless of how unrelated those issues might be

2018-08-16 10:51:12 UTC  

That's why I don't worry about left-right labels.

2018-08-16 10:52:14 UTC  

I support rhino horn trade. I support lifting of all prohibitions on drugs. Does that make me left or right? I don't care.

2018-08-16 10:52:18 UTC  

Its not about the label as it is about the representation

2018-08-16 10:52:53 UTC  

maybe I see the center as the grey area

2018-08-16 10:53:09 UTC  

where a lot of issues can often fall

2018-08-16 10:53:32 UTC  

Just ground your worldview on a set of values and principles. Everything falls into place after that. It's far more honest too.

2018-08-16 10:53:42 UTC  

but because outrage generates more activity, truly exploring the grey area is not rewarded

2018-08-16 10:53:46 UTC  

For me there are things on the left that I support as well as the right. That is why I hate the scale, maybe one way to define it is to have a set of values for the center? But again, it is one of those things that no one can ultimately stand for every center value... I agree that it is a grey area.

2018-08-16 10:54:58 UTC  

For me, most things are really that simple. Humans have a tendency to make stuff more complicated for no good reason.