Message from @Tom_Servo
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Gab?
didnt they have their serverrs shut down by microsoft
in the wake of this
if they host jones
They are up again because they went to someone that would help them... free market
I think you might feel differently if you were deplatformed by FB, twitter etc...
and again, I am not saying free market sucks... just saying that some things are complicated
Like I said, keep things simple.
1. Is the company operating freely?
2. What state restrictions apply to the company?
3. Is competition hindrered?
There is always an alternative in my opinion.
its is only simple if you willfully choose to ignore the complications
It is complicated, you are right
It is only complicated if you willfully choose to ignore the simplicity.
but not impossible
Everything is about people. Once you understand human behaviour, it makes everything simpler.
I'd suggest reading some Hayek, Friedman, and Sowell.
If you argue that a company must be regulated by the state, then you must also explain how you arrived at the regulations and why you believe the state is the most efficient regulator. Based on, well, EVERYTHING, the state is a very inefficient regulator.
State and regulation shouldnt be in the same sentence
because again, is blue right or is green right... and I dont want the state to decide that
Example:
I smoke (I don't, actually). My wife doesn't want me to smoke. Which is more efficient:
1. She threatens not to have sex with me until I stop smoking.
2. The government increases sin tax on tobacoo.
Like I said - I dont have the answer, but I can say that the power to silence held by these companies is not healthy
you are blind if you dont see that
You're right. It IS unhealthy. I've never said otherwise.
@Jerm I agree with you on the tobacco.... although I will include the caveat that if smokers are shown to put more of a burden on state funded healthcare, then they should contribute more toward that healthcare
I agree it is not ideal, but it does open new avenues like Gab... The people will move when they cannot be heard and their followers will follow
State funded healthcare shouldn't exist. Here is an example of the government making things complicated.
@Roovdwalt That's how the market works, yes. Exactly.
If you want healthcare, then you choose to pay for it. It should be voluntary. Problem is that it isn't. NHI will be forced onto everybody and then people will choose to still pay for private healthcare after that. It's compounding the matter and not very efficient. It's like paying a tax on top of a tax.
your arguments are really very similar to arguments I have with communists.... Communism presents the following problem. Yes, but this is not pure communism that problem wouldn't exist in pure communism.
if we can both agree that something is problematic, why can't we discuss all possibilities of addressing it
even if one of those thoughts might be in conflict with an existing belief?
I'm anything but a communist. I support individual freedom. That means I support your freedom to do as you please. There's nothing remotely close to communism there.
you defend the free market using the same logic that communists use to defend communism
I gave examples to highlight my point. I noted the problem with state healthcare, for example.
- in this particular case
Let me make it even simpler.
I dont know why we got to healthcare frankly... I am raising the issue of FB and free speech.
your argument is that FB is not really operating in a free market
so the problem wouldnt exist if we just did it right
I have a guitar. I want to sell it and somebody wants to buy it.
The trade can be as simple as that. But the state interferes in that trade by forcing itself into getting a cut of the sale. It then takes that cut to expand its own authority.