Message from @Jerm

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2018-08-16 11:47:36 UTC  

@Jerm so facebook shouldnt have the freedom to have a political view

2018-08-16 11:47:39 UTC  

?

2018-08-16 11:47:58 UTC  

how dare you limit the market this way 😬

2018-08-16 11:48:16 UTC  

They should have the freedom to a political view, but I think they should then be outspoken about it

2018-08-16 11:48:28 UTC  

I am being faecitious

2018-08-16 11:48:33 UTC  

Well, Facebook is just a group of individuals, so obviously they have their own interests. They should fund out of their own, rather than on behalf of Facebook.

2018-08-16 11:48:55 UTC  

but if shareholders dont agree with how they spend money politically they could disinvest

2018-08-16 11:48:57 UTC  

or use gab

2018-08-16 11:49:18 UTC  

are you even slightly seeing my point here?

2018-08-16 11:49:31 UTC  

nothing exists in a vacuum

2018-08-16 11:49:42 UTC  

theory is just theory and reality is sometimes messier

2018-08-16 11:50:00 UTC  

doesnt mean we should throw the theory out though

2018-08-16 11:50:13 UTC  

I see your point, but it's not very strong. You're not happy with FB's size and want them to be more regulated by the state, but can't clarify exactly what your criteria is.

2018-08-16 11:50:16 UTC  

Again it comes down to choices and our little negotiations in our heads , do I use Facebook or Gab? Facebook gives me reach, but Gab gives me political freedom... We make these choices as individuals and most prefer reach to political freedom for some strange reason

2018-08-16 11:51:15 UTC  

@Jerm nope cathy newman... I am concerned about the power Facebook has over free speech and am not convinced that free market theory will address this adequately

2018-08-16 11:51:41 UTC  

@Tom_Servo FB only has influence over free speech on its own platform.

2018-08-16 11:51:49 UTC  

@Jerm sorry unneccessarily rude - being said with a smile on my face

2018-08-16 11:52:44 UTC  

Also, free speech does not exist.

2018-08-16 11:52:53 UTC  

That's the first problem with the arguments around free speech.

2018-08-16 11:52:58 UTC  

People need to define it.

2018-08-16 11:53:25 UTC  

You aren't allowed to speak smack about my fiance in my home. Therefore, your free speech is curtailed.

2018-08-16 11:53:39 UTC  

You can't shout "bomb!" in a place. No free speech there either.

2018-08-16 11:53:43 UTC  

plane*

2018-08-16 11:54:23 UTC  

A business newspaper won't publish my cartoons about sports. No free speech there either.

2018-08-16 11:54:57 UTC  

if a printer refused to print your newspaper despite your willingness to pay then this would be comparable

2018-08-16 11:55:12 UTC  

A printer doesn't have to print your newspaper.

2018-08-16 11:55:14 UTC  

your house is not vital to public discourse

2018-08-16 11:55:16 UTC  

so no problem

2018-08-16 11:55:20 UTC  

It's not your right to get their business.

2018-08-16 11:55:26 UTC  

@Jerm, I agree, you will chase someone out your home and that is your right, but you should not be able to fine/arrest someone for offending your fiance

2018-08-16 11:56:08 UTC  

if printers had their own TOS, and refused to publish the Rapport because they were carrying one of your cartoons

2018-08-16 11:56:16 UTC  

Let them.

2018-08-16 11:56:47 UTC  

Like I said, it's not your right to get somebody's business.

2018-08-16 11:56:50 UTC  

back to work for me....

As a matter of interest, when last have you changed your mind on an issue?

2018-08-16 11:56:56 UTC  

any issue

2018-08-16 11:56:58 UTC  

Plenty.

2018-08-16 11:57:12 UTC  

i think this convo is getting out of hand.....

2018-08-16 11:57:26 UTC  

That's why I'm not longer in the mainstream anymore. 😂

2018-08-16 11:57:31 UTC  

no longer*

2018-08-16 11:57:56 UTC  

tone is lost in text....

2018-08-16 11:57:57 UTC  

I forgot what it feels like to work since discord