Message from @Rox

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2018-08-21 09:54:05 UTC  

okay will check it out

2018-08-21 10:21:43 UTC  
2018-08-21 10:47:31 UTC  

😂

2018-08-21 10:48:47 UTC  

So Eusebius gives 3 examples of why white privilege is still a thing:

> Single-digit unemployment
> Less likely to be discriminated against when trying to find a home
> Presumption of competence when looking for a new job

2018-08-21 10:49:15 UTC  

(Before he shat all over the call, tbh, I have to agree with Stephanie.)

2018-08-21 10:49:39 UTC  

In all 3 examples he's applying identity politics, and defining white people by their race group, and not their individual situation

2018-08-21 10:50:17 UTC  

It doesn't help an unemployed person to tell them "unemployment is so low in your group, you should be grateful". If they're unemployed, then to them, they're 100% unemployed and group stats don't change that.

2018-08-21 10:51:18 UTC  

Discrimination when finding a home: I've seen this in action myself, and it's still a real thing, but it's not nearly as widespread. The discrimination against white-owned businesses for government work is far more prevalent, far more damaging, and Matt called that out correctly.

2018-08-21 10:52:29 UTC  

Same with the presumption of competence. That's an inter-individual thing - you and the employer. Everybody taking a risk will want some assurance that their bet is not just money down the drain, and that shows in hiring practices. Black employers will prefer black employees that look/sound/speak/think like them. That's not a privilege thing, that's just how people operate.

2018-08-21 10:55:27 UTC  

And then at 11:10 Stephanie loses the plot by telling the army-conscripted guy he didn't suffer

2018-08-21 11:33:11 UTC  

"President Cyril Ramaphosa has warned that South Africa will become unstable if the state does not expropriate land without compensation." ~ lolwut?

2018-08-21 15:16:25 UTC  

Countries that become unstable have poor leadership... just saying

2018-08-21 17:02:27 UTC  

Doesnt matter what happens it will become unstable. Whe expropriation goes forwards, somewhere it is going to piss off the wrong farmers and if it doesnt go ahead it will piss off EFF and if it takes to long to happen then BLF are going to shit thier nappies full.

2018-08-22 07:13:05 UTC  

does anyone know who is funding BLF?

2018-08-22 07:13:37 UTC  

No idea, but pretty sure the guptas are involved

2018-08-22 07:14:27 UTC  

ooh yeah i remember now from Rendier's interview with him

2018-08-22 07:14:48 UTC  

hahaha look at this white boy playing victim:
https://twitter.com/NickolausBauer/status/1032113450628128768

2018-08-22 07:15:09 UTC  

This Adam chop just set back discourse about a year.... we had turned a corner

2018-08-22 07:15:56 UTC  

did we really? I see much worse extreme racism on Twitter..

2018-08-22 07:16:25 UTC  

Julius not calling for the slaughter of whites.. yet is not worse than the K word?

2018-08-22 07:17:21 UTC  

@Rox not the point right now.

The overall narrative was starting to shift and people were seeing through Julius, and a lot of people were starting to see EWC for what it was etc...

This oke going viral undoes a lot of that

2018-08-22 07:17:29 UTC  

its like watching american history x in real life

2018-08-22 07:17:42 UTC  

no @Rox it is not. calling the slaughter of whites is how we will restitute the wrongs of the past

2018-08-22 07:18:23 UTC  

@Tom_Servo couldn't agree more

2018-08-22 07:20:33 UTC  

guys like this is a massive part of the reason why dissenting voices are dismissed as racists. We do need to clean house.

2018-08-22 07:21:08 UTC  

plays into the BLF and EFF narrative

2018-08-22 07:22:39 UTC  

so peeved right now.

Now a guy like Nick Bauer gets to virtue signal and claim to speak for all whites. I have never kept quiet if someone has used a slur in front of me.... Many braai's cut short because of these types of arguments, and some friendships ended over it.

Just because he was too cowardly to say something he thinks all whites are.

2018-08-22 07:24:32 UTC  

My point is that there is just as much racism if not worse from the other side but they are never called out on it
One idiot posts a video and suddenly er are all racists or complicit .. cos "we said nothing"
By that same reasoning then we are all guilty of corruption and fraud beacuse we had Jacob Zuma as a president

2018-08-22 07:25:07 UTC  

@Rox I get your point, it is just not relevant right now. It is like being pulled over for speeding and then complaining that other people are also speeding

2018-08-22 07:25:37 UTC  

there is a double standard in reaction and reporting on racism, but this conversation can't happen on the back of this.

2018-08-22 07:25:42 UTC  

But it is also like saying one guy speeds .. you all need to get tickets

2018-08-22 07:26:57 UTC  

I starting seeing the conversation around double standards happening in earnest, but now it will just be dismissed as whataboutism

2018-08-22 07:27:02 UTC  

WHat has the guy who is speeding got to do with me.. Ive never met the dude... I dont know him
I saw tweets this morning saying kill 5000 whites for this ...or 5m would be better etc...
Is that response not far far worse than the actual crime

2018-08-22 07:28:00 UTC  

@Rox all valid points and conversations that need to happen, but can't happen (or aren't productive) in the immediate wake of this.... Just dealing in reality

2018-08-22 07:28:08 UTC  

I do not condone what he did or said.. in my opinion he is an idiot for doing that in this day and age and especially now with tensions so high
But I do think there is def a double standard that needs to be addressed

2018-08-22 07:28:29 UTC  

The real issue is that people try using social media platforms as extensions of real-world conversations, when they really should be thinking more like publishers and brands

2018-08-22 07:28:53 UTC  

I don't know what possessed Adam to make that video, but there was really no reason to do it, and then to upload it

2018-08-22 07:29:08 UTC  

@Tom_Servo I agree, EFF and BLF get excited when things like this happen. It just goes to show that we need to be careful and think before we speak, especially on camera. There is no reason to use the K word and if we want to be taken seriously, we need to be the bigger person and not do a tit for tat with racists like EFF and BLF

2018-08-22 07:29:18 UTC  

If he thought about the impact of his words for more than half a second he might have cut that piece out, and we'd not even know his name