Message from @Rox
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Farm murders can tell you a lot... no empathy.. no pity
They are savages!!! We should be teaching our wives and children how to defend themselves with firearms... They need to become comfortable with it and know how to use them safely and efficiently
Emigrate or fight seem the 2 options... I cant think of another
Just waiting to see if cool heads will prevail and this shit will stop.. but I cant see how
The best would be to head to the Northern Cape, away from the non sense if something goes down.... we are only strong in numbers
ya but stay off the highways
a few burning tyres and 100 revolutionaries and youre screwed
If my life or my family is in danger, I RAM who ever is in my way, at that point human life comes second to my life
i am slowly but surely starting to believe war won't breakout
yeah? do tell
oky this is just my opinion:
please.. give me hope
two things that Rama says:
1. EWC would create jobs, now taking into account that some of the EWC farms or probably all of them have minerals but time would tell. If this is true ANC can create thousands upon thousands of jobs through mining. countless surveys from respectable institutions (i.e IRR) have shown people want work not land. its just a handful that are singing the land issue kak and they will be controlled by the masses when Rama delivers on his promises, and if he does he EWC would be the biggest success story the ANC can tell as it would actually up the economy....who loses out of this?....the farmers that won't be compensated. other land that will be EWC will be urban vacant land...that will be expropriated in silence because it won't bother people as it won't affect us, only the owner of said land.
2. He is very very clear that illegal land grabs will be dealt with, so should the ANC give green light to EWC and people start grabbing land, i believe the ANC would intervene. why do i believe this? because the ANC won't destroy their only golden egg they have and illegal land grabs will lead to civil war and the ANC can't afford that.
so in my opinion, this whole EWC thing is a truth and a lie, i dont think they will expropriate all the land only some in order to boost the mining industry, the rest they will down scale commercial farmers limiting their access to only a certain amount of 'ownable' land and then giving/selling the rest to the state and then give that to our growing black farmers.
1. why arent they stopping the land invasions now?
2. what about food? They said EWC 80%
3. what about the masses who want a revolution and have been promised wealth
4. Importantly what about the Farmers.. they wont hand over
5. They are almost bankrupt and taking loans.. they cant even run SAA ..where is the money for all of this and the management?
6. The clause refers to property not just land.. do you trust the ANC would stop at farms?
Sorry @Robzombie I dont think so.. It sounds fabulous and I wish it were true
There is massive friction between the different groups.. Some even think this is not about land..
The current mining industry is seeing its ass cos of teh regulations and unions.. this is not a solution to any problems..
I honestly pray you are right and that I am just a paranoid nut
We need to be paranoid, it keeps us alert. @Robzombie If it works like that then awesome, but seeing how anything the ANC touches just falls into a pool of corruption, I have no hope. Then we still need to deal with EFF and BLF that WANT what THEY want and that is the demise of white people, period. Cyril can pull all the magic he wants, if EFF and BLF don't get what they want they WILL start K@K, then it makes no difference as it will all go downhill from there. But as Rox said, We pray you right.
Another reason I am sceptical is the way this EWC is being handled.. all secrecy and cloak and dagger bs
Rama knows the people are panicking.. the land bank (and I am sure the others) are panicking..
Farmers are organising but he says nothing to allay anyones fears.. and Julius Malema gets ever bolder
Emigration is sky rocketing.. taking skills and capital out ... Surely as a "good leader" he would share some of his plan
instead he parades his new black farmers on twitter
unfortunately i cannot disagree with you....that's why i said slowly but surely. from a top level that is my opinion.....but looking at all the other factors then yeah my opinion becomes irrelevant, because i know for a fact the boere are not going to back down, plans have already been formulated, they are just waiting to see what the govs direction is.
maybe i still have an ounce of trust in them and cannot fathom the fact that they would destroy their only golden egg....i mean are they really that dumb
Have they not destroyed a large part of what they inherited in 94? This entire country was a massive golden egg...
The goodwill .. the rainbow nation that everyone bought into ... all that is gone.. racism is rife and tolerated..
The economy... lets not mention SAA ESKOM PRASA etc...
Their own ANC.. They backed Zuma for how many years? And Mabuza is vice president
Today in Cape Town trains are burning again.. but hey at least no riot... at least No new invasions that we know of..
At least...The squatter camp 10 mins from me in not burning tyres in the road and throwing bricks at cars..
Im tired of being an "at least" person...
Many people are getting tired, from both sides and at some point either side will boil over
do yourselves a favour and buy this book:
what does he say?
okay will check it out
only one white guy....where are the colloureds and indians???
https://africa.cgtn.com/2018/08/17/south-african-students-granted-bursaries-to-study-in-china/
😂
So Eusebius gives 3 examples of why white privilege is still a thing:
> Single-digit unemployment
> Less likely to be discriminated against when trying to find a home
> Presumption of competence when looking for a new job
(Before he shat all over the call, tbh, I have to agree with Stephanie.)
In all 3 examples he's applying identity politics, and defining white people by their race group, and not their individual situation
It doesn't help an unemployed person to tell them "unemployment is so low in your group, you should be grateful". If they're unemployed, then to them, they're 100% unemployed and group stats don't change that.
Discrimination when finding a home: I've seen this in action myself, and it's still a real thing, but it's not nearly as widespread. The discrimination against white-owned businesses for government work is far more prevalent, far more damaging, and Matt called that out correctly.
Same with the presumption of competence. That's an inter-individual thing - you and the employer. Everybody taking a risk will want some assurance that their bet is not just money down the drain, and that shows in hiring practices. Black employers will prefer black employees that look/sound/speak/think like them. That's not a privilege thing, that's just how people operate.
And then at 11:10 Stephanie loses the plot by telling the army-conscripted guy he didn't suffer
"President Cyril Ramaphosa has warned that South Africa will become unstable if the state does not expropriate land without compensation." ~ lolwut?
Countries that become unstable have poor leadership... just saying
Doesnt matter what happens it will become unstable. Whe expropriation goes forwards, somewhere it is going to piss off the wrong farmers and if it doesnt go ahead it will piss off EFF and if it takes to long to happen then BLF are going to shit thier nappies full.
does anyone know who is funding BLF?