Message from @Klipkop (Clip-Cop)
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Same here
Deffenetief, JA!
Bitter baie @Our_DA lede gaan oorloop @COPE_SA en @VFPlus toe.
DA gaan ook baie van hulle nuutgevonde "black vote" weer verloor omdat Zuma nie meer aan die stuur is.
As die DA 15% nasionale stem kry in 2019 gaan ek verbaas wees.
Dis hoekom ek die ander dag vir Renaldo gesê het die DA gaan heel moontlik die Wes Kaap verloor in die volgende verkiesing. Hy is egter baie positief, en sê hy sal sy YouTube kanaal toemaak as dit gebeur
Hou dit oor sy kop volgende jaar
Ek persoonlik ken teminste 15 mense wat nie meer DA gaan stem nie.
DA gaan 2019 moet smeek by die kleiner partye om aan bewind te bly, Mmusi het dit verbrou.
Die de Lille saga het baie mense ook weg gedruk.
Die ANC lede wat orgeloop het agv. Jacob Zuma gaan ook nou terugkeer.
Die narritief dat 'n mens moet DA stem omdat "we are not the ANC" vlous niemand meer nie.
COPE, VFPlus. Stem vir iemand wat actually iets doen omtrent die probleme in die land, DA het hulle kans gehad.
Hulle het my stem verloor, ek glo die stem van baie ander ook,
@Gonzo, I agree that the DA governs better than the ANC, but that is not a big feat, as the ANC has very low standards. I also understand the necessity of keeping the ANC out, but a vote for the DA for myself and many others would be to sell out our values. The DA support many despicable policies, and I just can't vote for those things
@Gonzo, al wen die DA die verkiesing in 2024, is daar die baie werklike moontlikheid dat hulle net soos die ANC tewerk sal gaan. Gaan kyk maar gerus hoe die DA hulle waardes begin verander het oor die laaste paar jaar. Hulle ondersteun ook Afffirmative Action, en praat ook nou al van White Privilege ens. Op die ou einde sal hulle enigiets doen om die swart stem te kry, en wat hulle op die oomblik doen is om te verander in 'n ANC lite.
@Gonzo ekt nog altyd die indruk gehad dat boere nie regtig polities savvy is nie - hulle is meer soos mense wat dink aan ingeneurs tipe probleme en oplossings - maar ek dink die nuwe generasie kan dinge verander, dit is net belangrik om kultuur op te bou en jongmense sterk te maak
Dan kan hulle politieke probleme aanvat
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Oe la la. Dit is super vinnig om 'n DA ondersteuner te "trigger". 😅
Dit was nog altyd maklik om linkses te trigger @Klipkop (Clip-Cop)
Wil nie my waardes onder die bus gooi nie.. Ek bly weg van DA af
Wait for it..... ons gaan nou weer 'n hele boekdeel kry hoekom ons geen ander keuse het as om DA te stem nie....
@Gonzo ek het so verneem, ek spot maar net so bietjie. Maar jy kannie stry dat die DA links is nie
Die ANC is net verder links
En die EFF nog verder
Daai is meer kans vat aa wat dit 'n oplossing is
My oplossing is om kleiner partye groter te maak wat actually veg vir minderheids regte. Heel eenvoudig.
Dis die probleem met Suid Afrika. Suid Afrikaners is bereid om teen hulle beginsels te stem, net omdat hulle glo dis die enigste oplossing teen die ANC. In ander lande kry mens dit nie
Jip, geloof is laag...
Kom voice toe
Ja ons het n demokrasie, so jy will n demokrasie wat die swart meerderheid verkies uitruil vir nog demokrasie wat nou ook die swart meerderheid verkies? Kan ons tog 'n beter plan he as dit, om weg te kom van 'n demokrasie af, sodat almal gelyk kan wees, maak nie saak wat die meerderheid voel nie?
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@Sheamus Ek sal se dit is juis die skelm rond voeter om terug te kry wat die probleem is. Hoekom kan ons nie net reguit na die eindpunt toe gaan nie en net ons waardes behou? Is ons waardes so vikeerd dat ons eintlik onderhand moet speel en rond voeter met risks? Dit voel rerig skelm as ek nou rerig eerlik is met jou. Probeer jou nie sleg se nie, net ek dink klink soos 'n kak plan. En COPE is 'n mors van tyd in my opinie, lekota is 'n kommie.
For all those who think the DA is the solution to SA's problems ☝
@Gonzo I fully agree with you that Afrikaners should not be running away. Our place is on the Southern tip of Africa, and always has been. I just think that party politics are not the solution to the problems we face. I agree with you that the DA govern better than the ANC ever could, but in the end, their policies are just as discriminatory as the ANC's policies. If only Afrikaners could for once stand together and make a plan for our future, that would be a major step in the right direction. I still believe the best solution would be secession and our own Volkstaat, but we need to pull together in order to accomplish something like that. A referendum would then be needed, and we would need to decide on which area would be suitable for something like that. However, I think most Afrikaners are too comfortable with their current circumstances, and wouldn't want to move to another territory and leave everything behind (which is understandable). It is a complex situation.
I agree that would be a good start, but even if the Western Cape consists out of 80% Afrikaners, we would still be under the socialist policies of the government of South Africa. The ultimate solution has to be a separate Afrikaner state.
Yes true, but my point is, even if we elect our own political party to govern the province, we would still be required to operate within the South African constitution, and we would also still be forced to apply the socialist policies of the South African government.
We would still be paying tax for NHI for instance
But we would still be paying social taxes for others. The government would still have the capacity to redistribute portions of our taxes to other people. And if the constitution were to be changed to allow for Land expropriation without compensation for instance, we would still be affected, because we would still be part of South Africa. The only way to sidestep all of these issues, is to secede from South Africa, and form our own Volkstaat
Pretty sure people will go to the cape almost without hesitation, if there is property for homes they actually can afford and work for them to do. Voting DA, that is in full support of BEE, and looking to appeal to the black majority through identity politics, is not going to make that happen. The idea to gather us there in the Cape is a good idea, but to get everyone to vote DA is not. Majority want to punish them for pushing identity politics and wanting to defend BEE, to let them know we don't like to get played. Take a moment to reflect on the idiots that complain about the ANC, but keep voting ANC. Why are we to be like them? Should we not lead by example and actually stop supporting the fruitful works of evil? After all, real leadership is what is lacking.
@Gonzo fair enough, but weren't you pushing to vote DA last night, or have you given up on that argument now?
I see the DA vote as stability for a while,not an end solution. Stopping corruption and having services delivered to people is a start,and the DA is doing that in WC, and in parts in the EC,so they at least do their work.
