Message from @Daniel van Straaten

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2018-07-31 15:22:45 UTC  

Ai

2018-07-31 17:45:27 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468390220736495616/473909069283852289/VID-20180731-WA0049.mp4

2018-08-01 06:43:28 UTC  

This seems so nonews, just the same words again from a leader of one party of a representative government. Ramaphosa is a interventionist politician that needs votes. His ethical vision seems to be: preserve the ANC at all costs.

"However, it can be viewed as a decidedly political move to neutralise the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) whose members have been dominating parliamentary hearings on whether the Constitution should be amended."
https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/national/2018-07-31-breaking-news-anc-to-change-constitution-to-expropriate-land/

“Accordingly, the ANC will, through the parliamentary process, finalise a proposed amendment to the Constitution that outlines more clearly the conditions under which expropriation of land without compensation can be affected.”

Above it says "the ANC will", my question is is that sure? According to Ronaldo there is so much issues to still work through. The DA will fight this he said. What do you think?

2018-08-01 07:02:37 UTC  

What do you think @HoppeanSnake_ZA ?

2018-08-01 07:17:47 UTC  

@Daniel van Straaten We were discussing this last night @Guss and I disagreed as to its meaning in the greater scheme of things. Yes, the DA can try to fight it but section 25 of the constitution is under serious threat and there is no getting past that. Without property rights the economy is screwed. Will the DA fight it? Sure, they can try but the ANC has infiltrated every major institution in this country with fellow cadres who subscribe to this Transformation ideology. Parliament, is overwhelmingly in favor of it, the executive is clearly in favor of it and by association so is the ConCourt. The 4D chess argument that this is being done to appease the masses and that they wont actually amend the constitution is very narrow minded and illogical. Optimism is cowardice. The best we can hope for is that foreign capital will flee this country and that sanctions will be implemented ASAP.

2018-08-01 07:27:06 UTC  

I think it's too late for them, we're getting the word out, market closed 13.19 currently 13.30, if it breaks through 13.88 today it means that the whole world is watching, if it doesn't that means that they will keep on making these kinds of announcements at 23h00 and make the money on the insider trades, squirrel is probably happy to keep doing that until the rate approaches 14 then he thinks he can consolidate power and magically fix things(he has no idea how far out of his depth he is)

2018-08-01 07:28:21 UTC  

He has is building a dynasty, He's worth R6.5Bn but his brother in law is worth R450Bn

2018-08-01 08:43:28 UTC  

Regarding the Rand, can it really go drastically low considering the central back is not nationalised yet?

2018-08-01 09:37:38 UTC  

I've been surprised at its resilience

2018-08-01 10:42:36 UTC  

Every time I see EFF and parliamentary together, my brain reads it at 'paramilitary'.

2018-08-01 10:42:36 UTC  

Ditsem! @Bird_Goes_Beep, you just advanced to level 2!

2018-08-01 10:45:56 UTC  

@Bird_Goes_Beep lol I'm not the only one then 😆

2018-08-01 13:09:45 UTC  

not under fire....yet

2018-08-01 18:06:40 UTC  

he didn't handle that arm too finely

2018-08-01 20:32:44 UTC  

@Daniel van Straaten so what does this exactly mean?

2018-08-01 20:33:36 UTC  

Just another day in africa, we're praising the electricity company for keeping the lights on (sort of)

2018-08-01 20:37:21 UTC  

So when they take the land, what the hell do you guys do? Fight back and preserve their land?

2018-08-01 22:20:58 UTC  

IMO: If we do not establish some form of self-determination we're done for.

We're leaderless, vastly outnumbered, scattered across the country, divided into our own little groups and there's not much love from the outside. We can only reason and debate. We will probably just give them what they want, just like we gave them the country to rule. Some might try to resist and so land will be taken by force. If by some miracle it escalates into a larger scale conflict the majority of those who haven't left yet and keep resisting will be slaughtered. It will be up to the defeated tiny resistance to somehow regroup and fight back. It will take a lot more than a prayer and a cannon this time.

Or maybe I'm just talking a bunch of _kak_ and one day we'll smoke something that make us all reason within the same frame, decide to respect one another's cultures and acknowledge our collective history and live hapily ever after in a multiculti society.

2018-08-01 22:43:20 UTC  

The former part of your comment is closer to reality than the latter part honestly. @cµrvy

2018-08-01 22:49:37 UTC  

We need to regroup, reestablish ourselves like our forefathers have, bring back the rule of law and restore faith in God. Will be easier to do that and defend our new borders than remaining divided and trying to defend our individual properties. Let them have the rest of the country and fail under their communist rule, as they die off they will need to trade for resources, and we can negotiate to expand and reclaim territory. Won't be without any conflict though, but it's certainly better than playing along with their delusion. You are right though, we lack the leadership to lead us in that direction for now.

2018-08-02 07:36:15 UTC  

!invite

2018-08-02 07:36:15 UTC  
2018-08-02 08:38:27 UTC  
2018-08-02 08:55:10 UTC  

Hulle moet maar kom probeer! Ons wag al lank en het alles in plek hier...

2018-08-02 10:11:09 UTC  

Hemel maar my kommentaar word gesensor op Maroela Media!

2018-08-02 10:38:05 UTC  

lol ja self.

2018-08-02 10:38:11 UTC  

moet baie mooi PC wees daar.

2018-08-02 11:30:33 UTC  

<:damn:468419675978465310>

2018-08-02 11:31:55 UTC  

He didn't give it, he took it away lol.. More distractions, more attention

2018-08-02 11:43:31 UTC  

"Expropriate unused land etc... for starters"
"...you can call it land affirmative action..."
"the only hope of South Africa is the ANC."

https://youtu.be/hJ70cF_UNE8

2018-08-02 11:44:37 UTC  

If that is starters, what will the main course be? Taking all white owned property with killing them for dessert?

2018-08-02 13:03:01 UTC  

ANC posts dumb sh*t on Twitter

2018-08-02 13:03:09 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468390220736495616/474562803374620674/Capture.PNG