Message from @Daniel van Straaten
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I see. I agree with you, the concept makes sense why it would work.
Anyhoo peeps. It seems that the goals of the boervolk and those of the rest differ in the long term. All I can say is that there have been guards on the wall for many generations. Nobody listened in 1910. Nobody listened in 1992. You're not listening now. I wish you all the best of luck and may you and your families be protected. YHWH bless and keep you. Auf wiedersehen
You know, if the DA was not playing identity politics and throwing around false accusations like white privilege, and opened up to BEE coming to an end, your idea would be worth embracing. Those factors created and maintain inequity, and the gap in the inequity only grows larger, and trust diminishes. I can't support those values and believe that somehow, this will work out in our favor, the minority. Good luck though, can hope you are right about it and maybe you convince others, but i maintain my values and loyalty to bringing back and maintaining equity faithfully, the only true way. Cheers.
Theoretically this is the best bet at the moment.
I dont think the society we live in will put the past behind anytime soon. Untill we start working together and see the benefits it will have
@Gonzo i honestly don't see the point trusting the wolf in sheeps clothing. The devil is deceptive, and giving any credibility to the devil, to trust the devil is a death sentence. There are so many ways this can go wrong, if you are wrong. I put my faith in God instead and the rule of law. You won't get the rule of law through a democracy, the whole point of a democracy is to avoid the rule of law that is above us lowly men. I don't trust the DA, even if the leader claims to be Christian, i don't see a Christian supporting inequity in any shape or form, inequity that corrupts the heart clearly is described by Lucifers fall. I'm all for trekking, getting together with other believers that do away with the rule of men, faithfully. Only way to do that is to stop playing this game. Go there, and stand our ground, and demand our right to live under the rule of God, not man. Then I'm game for it, it's honest, it's straight forward, and anyone that opposes us will Clearly reveal their loyalties, and good and evil can be clearly distinguished, because only the evil will be the ones that deny us the right. I don't want to mess with the complexities and mental gymnastics of the liberal bullshitters. So I'm sorry, i have my values and my loyalties, which i will not sell short out of desperation. I would rather prepare and defend myself here at home staying loyal.
shiver gona ban you all for spamming local-news :D
I'm enjoying it, though.
\**** the DA 🙂
Ai
This seems so nonews, just the same words again from a leader of one party of a representative government. Ramaphosa is a interventionist politician that needs votes. His ethical vision seems to be: preserve the ANC at all costs.
"However, it can be viewed as a decidedly political move to neutralise the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) whose members have been dominating parliamentary hearings on whether the Constitution should be amended."
https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/national/2018-07-31-breaking-news-anc-to-change-constitution-to-expropriate-land/
“Accordingly, the ANC will, through the parliamentary process, finalise a proposed amendment to the Constitution that outlines more clearly the conditions under which expropriation of land without compensation can be affected.”
Above it says "the ANC will", my question is is that sure? According to Ronaldo there is so much issues to still work through. The DA will fight this he said. What do you think?
@Daniel van Straaten We were discussing this last night @Guss and I disagreed as to its meaning in the greater scheme of things. Yes, the DA can try to fight it but section 25 of the constitution is under serious threat and there is no getting past that. Without property rights the economy is screwed. Will the DA fight it? Sure, they can try but the ANC has infiltrated every major institution in this country with fellow cadres who subscribe to this Transformation ideology. Parliament, is overwhelmingly in favor of it, the executive is clearly in favor of it and by association so is the ConCourt. The 4D chess argument that this is being done to appease the masses and that they wont actually amend the constitution is very narrow minded and illogical. Optimism is cowardice. The best we can hope for is that foreign capital will flee this country and that sanctions will be implemented ASAP.
I think it's too late for them, we're getting the word out, market closed 13.19 currently 13.30, if it breaks through 13.88 today it means that the whole world is watching, if it doesn't that means that they will keep on making these kinds of announcements at 23h00 and make the money on the insider trades, squirrel is probably happy to keep doing that until the rate approaches 14 then he thinks he can consolidate power and magically fix things(he has no idea how far out of his depth he is)
He has is building a dynasty, He's worth R6.5Bn but his brother in law is worth R450Bn
Regarding the Rand, can it really go drastically low considering the central back is not nationalised yet?
I've been surprised at its resilience
Every time I see EFF and parliamentary together, my brain reads it at 'paramilitary'.
Ditsem! @Bird_Goes_Beep, you just advanced to level 2!
@Bird_Goes_Beep lol I'm not the only one then 😆
not under fire....yet
he didn't handle that arm too finely
@Daniel van Straaten so what does this exactly mean?
Just another day in africa, we're praising the electricity company for keeping the lights on (sort of)
So when they take the land, what the hell do you guys do? Fight back and preserve their land?
IMO: If we do not establish some form of self-determination we're done for.
We're leaderless, vastly outnumbered, scattered across the country, divided into our own little groups and there's not much love from the outside. We can only reason and debate. We will probably just give them what they want, just like we gave them the country to rule. Some might try to resist and so land will be taken by force. If by some miracle it escalates into a larger scale conflict the majority of those who haven't left yet and keep resisting will be slaughtered. It will be up to the defeated tiny resistance to somehow regroup and fight back. It will take a lot more than a prayer and a cannon this time.
Or maybe I'm just talking a bunch of _kak_ and one day we'll smoke something that make us all reason within the same frame, decide to respect one another's cultures and acknowledge our collective history and live hapily ever after in a multiculti society.
The former part of your comment is closer to reality than the latter part honestly. @cµrvy
We need to regroup, reestablish ourselves like our forefathers have, bring back the rule of law and restore faith in God. Will be easier to do that and defend our new borders than remaining divided and trying to defend our individual properties. Let them have the rest of the country and fail under their communist rule, as they die off they will need to trade for resources, and we can negotiate to expand and reclaim territory. Won't be without any conflict though, but it's certainly better than playing along with their delusion. You are right though, we lack the leadership to lead us in that direction for now.
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