Message from @HoppeanSnake_ZA
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No EFF in Orania either. Those low IQ retards need to traverse a desert to toi toi Orania. There is no discrimination against Whites in Orania. These Afrikaners are just too lazy to struggle and build another future in SA so they would rather farm for Hungarians. We are always strongest when we are together.
I agree but we'd be the minority of the Afrikaners.
or the white South Africans.
WC is a prog hell hole and will degenerate further as the years pass. People are too scared/lazy to build Orania. We need to rekindle our pioneering spirit.
Orania is not the place for all.The whole of western cape is tho.We have rich fertile farmlands and we have a port.
@cµrvy if all Afrikaners move to cpt, white people will be the majority in this province
But _they_ are being exported to WC by the bus loads.
Jis dude but the weather sucks there, hey? ;)
Lived there for 3 years, wind blew me back.
They're already too much for the coloureds.
Afrikaners are choosing the (((WC))) over the embers of an Afrikaner Volkstaat. This idea that life should be super comfy is typical boomer agitprop. Orania is demographically stable and will be for as long as King Boshoff is in charge. A hard life is a good life, if onlythe Afrikaner is willing to sacrifice a bit of the perks of multi-culti WC for a sustainable Volkstaat. #MakeAfrikanersBoomerFreeAgain
Even Orania wants a port.. being by the coast isn't just about comfort really
ya a port is essential.
A port is essential for international trade and is only really needed when you have an economy that can export goods. You need to build the economic infrastructure of Orania before a port will be absolutely necessary.
If we're land locked like that and the ANC goes totally of their rocker they can starve us out.
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Agreed with that, dont think it would hurt to have both orania and a coastal port state
Starve us out how? Orania is already food secure.
@HoppeanSnake_ZA I disagree. Orania is 'landlocked' and no port ,no fertile soil such and climate such as WC,the northern cape is arid and the infrastructure is not yet there. I have mentioned before why WC is the option
We will become a export province of all goods,we need international trade,then we keep the money within the province.
The infrastructure of Orania is yet to be built because Afrikaners want a nice cushy life in multi-culti hellholes like the Cape.
Orania only has 2000 people. We are 2.5milliom Afrikaners. That need jobs asap and housing asap. Its an easy move that cam be done now
All the small towns next to the N2/from Cpt to the the EC border will be white majority.
sounds like rainbow nation 2.0
Cape town is only the city. I'm talking about the whole of the WC province
Majority under the leadership of Jewish overlords in the WC. We should be working towards self determination, nobody said it would be easy but you know as well what I do that the only way the Afrikaner digs himself out of this mess is with hard work and determination.
@cµrvy make a lot more sense than having small pockets of Afrikaners all over SA. This way we are all together, also...MUCH EASIER,to get self determinatiom them.
Hard work is not a problem I don't think. But self-sustainability is about more than food.
Agreed with that, Gonzo.
Yeah i dont think everyone is going to meet the exact requirements of orania... but would still like a similar concept lol
@cµrvy true, which is why we need to build our futures there. Boomers want all the perks of a Volkstaat with none of the hard work. We have to start somewhere.
Orania is not self determined and it currently can't accommodate us all.
Orania has more autonomy than the WC
I dont see the problem really... why cant there be 2 options, why must it be orania or nothing at all?
So if we managed to create this Volkstaat around Orania and the ANC imposes total embargo against us. Wehere will we get fuel, solar panels etc from? I don't know, seems it would be too easy for them to smack us around.
@Sheamus because if you form a political union with groups of people that dont share your value structure and outbreed you at astonishing rates then you only pass the buck to your descendants who will face the same, if not worse, challenges that we are facing now.
@HoppeanSnake_ZA one has to be realistic,we need to have a plan as in now. People are fleeing overseas,instead they could settle in towns in the WC that are majority white with Afrikaner culture
@HoppeanSnake_ZA You think others not accepted by orania would not want to do the same? If they arent accepted by orania then why could they not go out and create their own volk staat that doesnt affect you at orania, doesnt have to affect your culture there, but could make for an ally with a port.
So much to consider. I wonder if Willem talked to them about these things when they were there...
They've obviously mulled these things over ad nauseam