Message from @cµrvy
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Lived there for 3 years, wind blew me back.
They're already too much for the coloureds.
Afrikaners are choosing the (((WC))) over the embers of an Afrikaner Volkstaat. This idea that life should be super comfy is typical boomer agitprop. Orania is demographically stable and will be for as long as King Boshoff is in charge. A hard life is a good life, if onlythe Afrikaner is willing to sacrifice a bit of the perks of multi-culti WC for a sustainable Volkstaat. #MakeAfrikanersBoomerFreeAgain
Even Orania wants a port.. being by the coast isn't just about comfort really
ya a port is essential.
A port is essential for international trade and is only really needed when you have an economy that can export goods. You need to build the economic infrastructure of Orania before a port will be absolutely necessary.
If we're land locked like that and the ANC goes totally of their rocker they can starve us out.
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Agreed with that, dont think it would hurt to have both orania and a coastal port state
Starve us out how? Orania is already food secure.
@HoppeanSnake_ZA I disagree. Orania is 'landlocked' and no port ,no fertile soil such and climate such as WC,the northern cape is arid and the infrastructure is not yet there. I have mentioned before why WC is the option
We will become a export province of all goods,we need international trade,then we keep the money within the province.
The infrastructure of Orania is yet to be built because Afrikaners want a nice cushy life in multi-culti hellholes like the Cape.
Orania only has 2000 people. We are 2.5milliom Afrikaners. That need jobs asap and housing asap. Its an easy move that cam be done now
All the small towns next to the N2/from Cpt to the the EC border will be white majority.
sounds like rainbow nation 2.0
Cape town is only the city. I'm talking about the whole of the WC province
Majority under the leadership of Jewish overlords in the WC. We should be working towards self determination, nobody said it would be easy but you know as well what I do that the only way the Afrikaner digs himself out of this mess is with hard work and determination.
@cµrvy make a lot more sense than having small pockets of Afrikaners all over SA. This way we are all together, also...MUCH EASIER,to get self determinatiom them.
Hard work is not a problem I don't think. But self-sustainability is about more than food.
Yeah i dont think everyone is going to meet the exact requirements of orania... but would still like a similar concept lol
@cµrvy true, which is why we need to build our futures there. Boomers want all the perks of a Volkstaat with none of the hard work. We have to start somewhere.
Orania is not self determined and it currently can't accommodate us all.
Orania has more autonomy than the WC
I dont see the problem really... why cant there be 2 options, why must it be orania or nothing at all?
So if we managed to create this Volkstaat around Orania and the ANC imposes total embargo against us. Wehere will we get fuel, solar panels etc from? I don't know, seems it would be too easy for them to smack us around.
@Sheamus because if you form a political union with groups of people that dont share your value structure and outbreed you at astonishing rates then you only pass the buck to your descendants who will face the same, if not worse, challenges that we are facing now.
@HoppeanSnake_ZA one has to be realistic,we need to have a plan as in now. People are fleeing overseas,instead they could settle in towns in the WC that are majority white with Afrikaner culture
@HoppeanSnake_ZA You think others not accepted by orania would not want to do the same? If they arent accepted by orania then why could they not go out and create their own volk staat that doesnt affect you at orania, doesnt have to affect your culture there, but could make for an ally with a port.
So much to consider. I wonder if Willem talked to them about these things when they were there...
They've obviously mulled these things over ad nauseam
No other province offers what the WC have on offer.
EC is Xhosa country
KZN is Zululand.
We need the port in the WC
@Gonzo I just dont believe in multi-culturalism. A hard life in Orania where one sacrifices some of the perks of a multi-culti WC for a peaceful existence and a better future for my descendants. @Sheamus Im not opposed to a port town at all but I believe that establishing Orania as a small city state should be priority number 1.
@HoppeanSnake_ZA like I said we can become self determined afterwards. Our chances will be Much better then.
First step is getting everyone together as a majority in one place.
Fair enough, we are arguing about symantics. If a similar experiment like Orania can be launched in the WC, it will get my full support but moving to the WC just because the Bantu is mean and the (((DA))) offers a slightly less oppressive government is not the way to go.
@HoppeanSnake_ZA I get that you dont believe in it, but no one is telling you not to go to Orania, not even opposing it. Just understand that Orania has strict requirements, one being clean from any drugs for more than 2 years, weed happens to be a really good relaxant for when you struggle to get good sleep and rest, as well as pain. I will not be accepted for that, and neither would many others, but it's not like i think less of them for that, it's their rules, and then there is the whole calvanist christian, not a lot of people accept that either, and that too seems like a requirement. So like that, why cant there just be a secondary independent state then? Also why does it have to be DA if there would be an independent state, the DA despise the idea of an indepenedent state, they wouldnt want to be part of it anyways lol
yeah. just a couple of notches too far on the amish side.
which might be a good thing. no degeneracy going to creep up to orania.