Message from @rob

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2018-07-31 14:29:31 UTC  

On 8 September 1834, the Boer Kommissietrek of 20 men and one woman including a retinue of coloured servants, set off from Grahamstown for Natal with 14 wagons. Moving through the Eastern Cape, they were welcomed by the Xhosa who were at loggerheads with the neighbouring Zulu King Dingane kaSenzangakhona, and they passed unharmed into Natal. They travelled more or less the same route as Dr. Andrew Smith had taken two years earlier.

The trek avoided the coastal route, keeping to the flatter inland terrain. The kommissietrek approached Port Natal from East Griqualand and Ixopo, crossing the upper regions of the Mtamvuna and Umkomazi rivers. The travel pace was slow due to the rugged terrain, and since it was the summer, the rainy season had swollen many of the rivers to their maximum. Progress required days of scouting to locate the most suitable tracks to negotiate. Eventually after weeks of incredible toil, the small party arrived at Port Natal crossing the Congela River and weaving their way through the coastal forest into the bay area. They had travelled a distance of about 650 km from Grahamstown. This trip would have taken about 5–6 months with their slow moving wagons. The Drakensberg route via Kerkenberg into Natal had not yet been discovered.

They arrived at the sweltering hot bay of Port Natal in February 1835 exhausted after their long journey. There, the trek was soon welcomed with open arms by the few British hunters and ivory traders there such as James Collis and including semi-invalid Rev. Allen Francis Gardiner (1794–1851), an ex-commander of the Royal Navy ship Clinker, who had decided to start a mission station there.

2018-07-31 14:31:09 UTC  
2018-07-31 14:33:47 UTC  

thanks

2018-07-31 14:35:26 UTC  

The Xhosa Wars (also known as the Cape Frontier Wars, or Africa's 100 Years War) were a series of nine wars or flare-ups (from 1779 to 1879) between the Xhosa tribes and European settlers in what is now the Eastern Cape in South Africa. These events were the longest-running military action in the history of African colonialism.[a][2]

2018-07-31 14:37:19 UTC  

The Second Boer War (11 October 1899 – 31 May 1902) was fought between the British Empire and two Boer states, the South African Republic (Republic of Transvaal) and the Orange Free State, over the Empire's influence in South Africa. It is also known variously as the Boer War, Anglo-Boer War, or South African War. Initial Boer attacks were successful, and although British reinforcements later reversed these, the war continued for years with Boer guerrilla warfare, until harsh British counter-measures brought them to terms.

2018-07-31 14:37:46 UTC  

The First Boer War (Afrikaans: Eerste Vryheidsoorlog, literally "First Freedom War"), also known as the First Anglo-Boer War, the Transvaal War or the Transvaal Rebellion, was a war fought from 16 December 1880 until 23 March 1881 between the United Kingdom and the South African Republic (also known as Transvaal Republic; not to be confused with the modern-day Republic of South Africa).[1] The war resulted in defeat for the British and the second independence of the South African Republic.

2018-07-31 14:38:46 UTC  

1910 Union of South Africa, mostly British Favoured rule until 1948

2018-07-31 14:39:16 UTC  

1948 Start of Apartheid (Afrikaner favoritism)

2018-07-31 14:40:07 UTC  

1976 Soweto Uprisings (Led by the black consciousness movement and SASSO)

2018-07-31 14:40:43 UTC  

Soviets saw the ANC becoming irrelevant and took them for further training in Vietnam

2018-07-31 14:41:37 UTC  

1980s-1994 People's War (ANC consolidating power against competing black african political organisations)

2018-07-31 14:42:14 UTC  
2018-07-31 14:42:51 UTC  

cape town, johannesburg, durban

2018-07-31 14:45:09 UTC  
2018-07-31 14:46:42 UTC  

@AltCapRight here is the kangaroo court happening right now https://twitter.com/Klipkop12/status/1024238897285537792

2018-07-31 14:47:05 UTC  

this girl was probably born in the 90s

2018-07-31 14:58:27 UTC  

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) great idea, how about a 2d map of africa with growing territorial borders over time

2018-07-31 14:59:15 UTC  

Can you also do a map showing Wakanda? I wanna go there

2018-07-31 14:59:39 UTC  
2018-07-31 15:11:10 UTC  

I’m just listening In, I’m busy driving

2018-07-31 15:11:30 UTC  

Will prob be home In 30mins

2018-07-31 15:11:50 UTC  

You shouldn't be texting while driving

2018-07-31 15:11:57 UTC  

😂

2018-07-31 15:23:12 UTC  

@AltCapRight Early conflicts
First war (1779–81)
The First Xhosa War broke out in 1779 between Boer frontiersmen and the Xhosa. In December 1779 an armed clash started, the war was resulted by allegations of cattle theft by Xhosa people. This led to Adreaan Van Jaarsveld capturing a large number of cattle from the Xhosa and claiming to have driven them out of Zuurveld by July 1781 [4]

Second war (1789–93)
The second war involved a larger territory.

Start of British involvement
Fourth War (1811–12)
The Fourth War was the first experienced under British rule.
Fifth War (1818–19)

2018-07-31 15:27:51 UTC  

#question was Zuurveld White land that blacks immigrated to and then were driven out?

2018-07-31 15:30:19 UTC  

Did any of the wars above result in border expansion?

2018-07-31 15:30:39 UTC  

If one of them did, did the war start because of White aggression or not?

2018-07-31 15:36:54 UTC  

Dutch and Serbs

2018-07-31 15:37:12 UTC  

note how uncontroversial the height comment is

2018-07-31 15:39:42 UTC  

18 in Cape Town

2018-07-31 15:39:42 UTC  

Ditsem! @Nogals, you just advanced to level 1!

2018-07-31 15:40:27 UTC  

ja I'm cold

2018-07-31 15:41:25 UTC  

@HoppeanSnake_ZA you should know the island, its where the Boers were sent, St Helena is where Napoleon was sent

2018-07-31 15:42:02 UTC  

@Nogals now I remember