Message from Arm in Willem Petzer Live Chat #voice-channel-chat


2018-07-31 22:59:32 UTC  
2018-07-31 22:59:32 UTC  

Ditsem! @AltCapRight, you just advanced to level 1!

2018-07-31 23:00:54 UTC  

that is not accurate

2018-07-31 23:00:57 UTC  

no

2018-07-31 23:01:08 UTC  

it is mixing lies with truth

2018-07-31 23:01:35 UTC  

it is saying we stole dingaans cattle

2018-07-31 23:01:48 UTC  

and we said we will give it back if he gives us land

2018-07-31 23:01:51 UTC  
2018-07-31 23:01:57 UTC  

You stole his dog!

2018-07-31 23:03:40 UTC  

it does

2018-07-31 23:03:56 UTC  

This is getting confusing 🤕

2018-07-31 23:04:09 UTC  

@9:10 ou oom jy jok lekker. Old man you are lying through your teeth, Dingaan knew who stole the cattle and he knew it was not the voortrekkers. The treaty was, go get dingaans stolen cattle and the thieves who stole it and then we can start negotiating.

2018-07-31 23:04:17 UTC  

sorry for the afrikaans

2018-07-31 23:04:28 UTC  

that was me pointing out to him that he wa slying

2018-07-31 23:05:42 UTC  

have a look at this link and let me know what you think

2018-07-31 23:07:07 UTC  

yes our government back in the early 1900s made a movie

2018-07-31 23:07:15 UTC  

but i think it's all in afrikaans

2018-07-31 23:07:25 UTC  

@theeChristopher ja that's a pretty bad spot @AltCapRight compare 9:10 in that video vs wikipedia on that episode: In October 1837, the Voortrekker leader Piet Retief visited Dingane at his royal kraal to negotiate a land deal for the voortrekkers. In November, about 1,000 Voortrekker wagons began descending the Drakensberg mountains from the Orange Free State into what is now KwaZulu-Natal.

Dingane asked that Retief and his party retrieve some cattle stolen from him by a local chief as part of the treaty for land for the Boers. This Retief and his men did, returning on 3 February 1838. The next day, a treaty was signed, wherein Dingane ceded all the land south of the Tugela River to the Mzimvubu River to the Voortrekkers. Celebrations followed. On 6 February, at the end of the celebrations, Retief's party were invited to a dance, and asked to leave their weapons behind. At the peak of the dance, Dingane leapt to his feet and yelled "Bambani abathakathi!" (isiZulu for "Seize the wizards"). Retief and his men were overpowered, taken to the nearby hill kwaMatiwane, and executed.

2018-07-31 23:08:16 UTC  

there are some (large) inaccuracies but the dates and map/territory details should be correct

2018-07-31 23:11:05 UTC  
2018-07-31 23:12:39 UTC  

Who is the guy asking for a documentary?

2018-07-31 23:12:45 UTC  

me

2018-07-31 23:12:57 UTC  

if you want information about us Boers

2018-07-31 23:12:59 UTC  

you must

2018-07-31 23:13:10 UTC  

search Voortrekker

2018-07-31 23:38:09 UTC  

Ditsem! @RaRi, you just advanced to level 6!

2018-07-31 23:39:43 UTC  
2018-07-31 23:40:24 UTC  
2018-07-31 23:40:24 UTC  

Ditsem! @Crusher, you just advanced to level 3!

2018-07-31 23:47:16 UTC  
2018-07-31 23:50:01 UTC  

see ya guys

2018-07-31 23:50:04 UTC  

going to bed

2018-07-31 23:50:24 UTC  

Night man

2018-07-31 23:51:57 UTC  

Night