Message from @rob

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2018-07-20 12:19:09 UTC  

Well I'm open to seeing what you have to share DeeJay. I can can entertain ideas

2018-07-20 12:20:21 UTC  

My surname comes from an island in denmark, via some french village where the spelling changed

2018-07-20 12:21:14 UTC  

but I'm pretty sure most of my history is in the cape

2018-07-20 12:23:59 UTC  

I don't want to look for it later lol since this is YouTube videos mostly, create a Playlist, and share the Playlist, will bring your spam count down, but also offer a lot of follow up vids with one link.

2018-07-20 12:27:10 UTC  

Let's rock and roll, I'm bored. Spirituality... what is it?

2018-07-20 12:27:54 UTC  

My battery is almost flat and you want to start now lol

2018-07-20 12:28:06 UTC  

haha

2018-07-20 12:28:10 UTC  

hahaha shit ok we can do it later

2018-07-20 12:28:34 UTC  

I'll start, bhagavad gita says that life is a series of moments between a subject and and object

2018-07-20 12:28:59 UTC  

Let's maybe just get our methods of reasoning straight? Make sure we on the same page in what we accept

2018-07-20 12:29:13 UTC  

think of it like a film strip and each frame has a subject and an object

2018-07-20 12:29:46 UTC  

@Sheamus Let's not get too formal. Lets just chat and see

2018-07-20 12:30:16 UTC  

when we started the scientific method we started measuring the object, and various people recorded their interations with objects, the common factors were noted and we had the scientific method of identifying objective reality

2018-07-20 12:30:24 UTC  

@rob In your own personal opinion?

2018-07-20 12:30:38 UTC  

the scientists continued drilling down to find the ultimate objects that made up the world

2018-07-20 12:30:58 UTC  

all my take on what I understand from the various sources I mention

2018-07-20 12:31:27 UTC  

The deepest hole ever drilled is the Kola Ultradeep borehole in Russia somewhere. 12 Kilometers.

2018-07-20 12:31:39 UTC  

Why not make this formal? What we've been doing so far is pretty casual, but this is already a topic we formally agreed on doing, which is already formal as i see it.

2018-07-20 12:31:39 UTC  

Ditsem! @Sheamus, you just advanced to level 6!

2018-07-20 12:32:13 UTC  

in the early 20th century quantum physicists realised that they can't measure an object without affecting it by virtue of the measurement

2018-07-20 12:32:39 UTC  

coming back to the point that life is not objects but a series of subject object connections

2018-07-20 12:32:49 UTC  

@Sheamus Suggestions?

2018-07-20 12:32:52 UTC  

and science is the study of the object

2018-07-20 12:33:15 UTC  

spirituality/religion is the study of the subject

2018-07-20 12:34:47 UTC  

anyway, just wanted to flesh out what I think the subject/self/soul is in relation to science and religion

2018-07-20 12:34:47 UTC  

Ditsem! @rob, you just advanced to level 5!

2018-07-20 12:35:02 UTC  

Yeah, let's start with a common principle that we all can agree on? I like the golden rule, And use that principle as reference to our agreement on what we can best relate to as fair and equal.

2018-07-20 12:35:58 UTC  

I like the golden rule, I find it easier to explain by describing its opposite

2018-07-20 12:36:14 UTC  

Rob you nailed it again

2018-07-20 12:37:03 UTC  

humans have the capacity for evil because they know what would feel terrible for themselves to experience and they can therefore do that to others. the golden rule is the opposite of torture/pure evil

2018-07-20 12:37:17 UTC  

Materialsim is the opposite of Spirituality.

2018-07-20 12:37:48 UTC  

And from there, you can logically deduce the nature of man.

2018-07-20 12:38:33 UTC  

Yes, agreed with you guys.. But creation is the balance of the two. Balance is key. Always have to balance everything to solve problems lol

2018-07-20 12:38:45 UTC  

I'm doing some MS PAINT work brb

2018-07-20 12:39:20 UTC  

Lol why ms paint, if you going to be cheap, then at least get gimp

2018-07-20 12:39:30 UTC  

quantum experiments have also confirmed that there is a group non material reality(holy spirit if you like) that generates our material reality in the same way that our immatterial thoughts generate our material electrical impulses in our brain https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/coming-to-grips-with-the-implications-of-quantum-mechanics/

2018-07-20 12:39:50 UTC  

thanks guys 😃 I enjoy chatting about this stuff

2018-07-20 12:41:01 UTC  

@Sheamus looool

2018-07-20 12:41:39 UTC  

You are always welcome here bud, i like both of your company so far, both of you are very engaging intellectuals. It's a relief from the emotional drama found in other parts of the net.

2018-07-20 12:42:16 UTC  

To be more precise, materialism and spirituality exist as opposite ends of the same scale. And in order to define spirituality, we must first define materialism.