Message from rob in Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars
Agreed with that too on the spiritual realm. As above, so below, as within, so without. Inside and all around us, omniscient and omnipotent
It's very real. Jesus did it. Lao Tzu did it. I think Bruce Lee as well - that physique is because of fasting as well. Zen and Jesus is the same thing
@Deejay from Earth I think the was we are evolving, eventually we will all have the choice to seek enlightenment and plug into the spirtual internet much like we have the ability to learn science and 3d print devices/build software/CRISPr
It's a higher state of consciousness. And the Kingdom of God really does live inside of us.
coming back to the critique on environmentalism, I think that the Neomarxists are trying to block our connection to the kingdom within, by putting an ideology in its place
It's being blocked yes absolutely.
By keeping us busy, unhealthy and poor.
That's why they have to teach us a load of shit in school.
Yes, actually funny, I saw some videos on that with Putin comparing communism with Christianity, trying to mimic it in a reversed way.
Like I said yesterday, you don't teach your slaves how to make guns. You make them as stupid as humanly possible.
communism is a highly sophisticated spiritual warfare weapon
Indeed it is yeah, agreed.
That is why I think that if we are going to get out of this shithole we dug for ourselves, we need to fix the people before we can even start thinking about new ideologies.
I think we need to reach people on the spiritual level
I've seen intelligent friends brainwashed, it's sad
but the spiritual needs to be shown to people in ways that they can understand
We all need to start fasting, and awaken to our true nature.
in vedantas book they say the different yogas were ways for different natured people to acheive enlightenment
so intellectuals need to be shown it intellectually
and emotional people need to be shown truth emotionally
in my mind science has explained religion and they align perfectly, the people that disagree are humanities students
spiritual people need to know god directly like you are advocating @Deejay from Earth
DeeJay, you are saying we should do nothing, fast and be lazy, unlearn what we've learnt, ideas are bad.... But then you go on to propagate ideas none the less, aren't you?
but some people in our societies are shamans and some are musicians and some are inventors and they all express god through their attention
Yes and they all participate in the material realm.
I think that the mass of communists in south africa still have gogos that pay funeral cover for a big funeral because they believe in god
and I think that's the angle that needs to be worked in south africa
Before enlightenment: chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment: chop wood, carry water.
@Sheamus The lazy, unkept and disorganized people are always the spiritual ones.
it is critical that we evolve spiritually
different types of people exist, some are messy, some are organised, some talk to god at night, some don't but we all have the potential to speak to god. Our purpose though is to live the life god intended, not to escape it.
Lol it does evolve into many different branches
Yes, agreed.. Measured by the Golden rule, very reasonable to agree with that. To serve a will greater than our selfish desires.
The bhagavad gita starts with Arjuna(a great warrior) facing an army of his cousins and starting to wonder whether all the bloodshed is worth it... Krishna (his friend) arrives, reveals his true identity as Krishna and explains that Arjuna is a great warrior and that he _must_ fight and then proceeds to explain the nature of reality to Arjuna
Picture if you will the Wise Man of the idyllic small village in the mountains. What is the role of the holy man of the village? Obviously he is the spiritual leader. He is also the political adviser to the Chief. He is also the engineer and the doctor. He is also the medicine man. So in my view, Spirituality is knowledge as well the ability to think and reason logically and critically. To have the answers. And isn't that what people want from their God, answers? Spiritual people live for helping others, materialist people live only for themselves. The spiritual man understands the nature of his reality as well as his place in it. And this ability is meant for everyone. It's natural and physiological. Not ideological.
@Deejay from Earth interesting, I like the idea of the Renaissance man being able to do a bit of everything, and certainly today you can be quite a prolific tinkerer in the material realm in mainstream society
Lol all of that can only be understood by ideas... Why do you oppose using a reasonable definition for ideology, why do you insist using your definition that vilifies it? Where is this prejudice rooted?