Message from @Deejay from Earth

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2018-07-20 13:12:14 UTC  

is so true

2018-07-20 13:12:30 UTC  

and the communists also believe it

2018-07-20 13:12:41 UTC  

but they come from a mindset of scarcity

2018-07-20 13:13:10 UTC  

And that scarcity mind set is a huge problem

2018-07-20 13:13:16 UTC  

I disagree with some of that though, value is needed... But it probably refers to material value.

2018-07-20 13:13:35 UTC  

whereas i see us producing so much 'stuff'(tools) that is good enough for purpose. I think in terms of value created using tools

2018-07-20 13:13:42 UTC  

Value is only needed in a materialist world.

2018-07-20 13:14:17 UTC  

Exactly, there's value that's needed... It's not material though. Which was my point

2018-07-20 13:14:25 UTC  

I commented on EWC that the communists mustn't be shocked if no one stays to hear them play once they've stolen all the instruments from the orchestra

2018-07-20 13:14:54 UTC  

I have tons of computers but I can't give my knowledge to my domestic worker

2018-07-20 13:14:58 UTC  

No, you value good as opposed to evil don't you?

2018-07-20 13:15:05 UTC  

so just giving 'stuff' has limited utility

2018-07-20 13:15:32 UTC  

what I'm saying is the only value is really the creative value

2018-07-20 13:15:46 UTC  

To be spiritual, and to become the definition of spirituality, you have to reject the material world. Not just through fasting. You actually, literally have to start getting rid of your shit. We do not get possessed by demons, we are possessed by our own possessions.

2018-07-20 13:17:10 UTC  

Your mind keeps track of every single penny you have. Every single thing you say and do. Everything you own. And how much you value it.

2018-07-20 13:17:29 UTC  

we have what we need(tool wise), the only things of value are not available on the market. Going back to the afterlife video library, you can't buy a video of Mozart without putting in the effort.

2018-07-20 13:17:29 UTC  

Ditsem! @rob, you just advanced to level 6!

2018-07-20 13:17:54 UTC  

Yeah but I'll have to bring up last nights argument again on ideology. These are all ideas, and ideas aren't inherently bad, you can't say you have NO IDEA what truth or reason is. You need an idea, and serving an idea you know to be good is not the same as being deceptively enslaved by an idea that's bad.

2018-07-20 13:18:20 UTC  

hmm, serving an idea is a really interesting point

2018-07-20 13:18:35 UTC  

have you guys read Crichton's critique on environmentalism?

2018-07-20 13:18:43 UTC  

When you start letting go of the material world - by eating less and doing less - your mind will start waking up.

2018-07-20 13:19:05 UTC  

I fast two to four days a week.

2018-07-20 13:20:21 UTC  

Why not just fast intermittently, you still get into ketosis that way and it's much more reasonable since it offers more consistency, as opposed to the chaotic interruptions you cause your body with the heavy start and stop

2018-07-20 13:20:23 UTC  

There is a scientifically-provable entirely physiological process that starts when you start fasting.

2018-07-20 13:21:38 UTC  

Imagine the human mind is like a giant one million port Gigabit Network Switch.

2018-07-20 13:22:04 UTC  

Every cent you have have takes up a port.

2018-07-20 13:22:34 UTC  

Every single thing you own is plugged in.

2018-07-20 13:22:58 UTC  

Even your next planned holiday is taking up a few ports already.

2018-07-20 13:23:25 UTC  

I agree with you @Deejay from Earth but I also like the idea I read in The Eternities - Vedanta Treatise (A.Parthasarathy) - basically that there is a certain hygeine required for science, so we see scientists in clean laboratories practicing science, similarly sages need to undergo a cleaning process, but regular people can use the lessons learned by scientists in labs that they never see - in fact it is natural. He says that spiritual lessons are also for the non sages to use, even though they might only be discovered by sages

2018-07-20 13:23:58 UTC  

My battery is almost kaput, still haven't all agreed on how we define what's reasonable. Rob you are on board with the golden rule yeah? And what about you Deejay?

2018-07-20 13:24:31 UTC  

If you're going @Sheamus I'd like to leave with one last thought/post

2018-07-20 13:24:58 UTC  

What I'm trying to say is, when you start unplugging from the material world, and if you fast diligently, you start going to the kingdom of God.

2018-07-20 13:25:49 UTC  

In my view, the Kingdom of God is the same place as the spiritual place where we get our answers from.

2018-07-20 13:25:51 UTC  

Yes i know that... You trying to convince me?

2018-07-20 13:26:06 UTC  

going to copy the text if you guys don't mind, could find it easily online, the Crichton critique on environment, I think that all true religion fills the space within all humans with a personal god, and I believe that all of the SJW/neomarxists/ideologists try to fill the exact same spot with ideology

2018-07-20 13:27:06 UTC  

Agreed with that too on the spiritual realm. As above, so below, as within, so without. Inside and all around us, omniscient and omnipotent

2018-07-20 13:27:52 UTC  

It's very real. Jesus did it. Lao Tzu did it. I think Bruce Lee as well - that physique is because of fasting as well. Zen and Jesus is the same thing

2018-07-20 13:28:04 UTC  

@Deejay from Earth I think the was we are evolving, eventually we will all have the choice to seek enlightenment and plug into the spirtual internet much like we have the ability to learn science and 3d print devices/build software/CRISPr

2018-07-20 13:28:35 UTC  

It's a higher state of consciousness. And the Kingdom of God really does live inside of us.

2018-07-20 13:29:29 UTC  

coming back to the critique on environmentalism, I think that the Neomarxists are trying to block our connection to the kingdom within, by putting an ideology in its place

2018-07-20 13:30:18 UTC  

It's being blocked yes absolutely.