Message from rob in Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars


2018-07-20 14:09:21 UTC  

if you are truly ready for the truth you then 10+day fast or you eat 10+g of 🍄 and it's always been there

2018-07-20 14:10:28 UTC  

but I wouldn't recommend hanging around, I think that the spirit world has good and evil, just like the material world, I think exploring extremely deeply is a calling

2018-07-20 14:10:44 UTC  

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2018-07-20 14:11:08 UTC  

free will is the whole point of this reality

2018-07-20 14:11:09 UTC  

I've had a few trips, but i catagorize the dependency of poisoning the body to induce that as not the optimal way.

2018-07-20 14:12:25 UTC  

fasting is the ultimate non external way

2018-07-20 14:12:25 UTC  

Ditsem! @rob, you just advanced to level 7!

2018-07-20 14:12:36 UTC  

available to everyone at all times

2018-07-20 14:13:53 UTC  

Yeah fasting I agree with, i mean it requires mastery and free will not to be a slave to your biological composition.

2018-07-20 14:13:53 UTC  

I came to this whole thing in a very roundabout manner, so I have no problems with cubensis I think it might have played a crucial role in our development as a species, but you definitely don't need it

2018-07-20 14:15:15 UTC  

but the mushroom is another conscious entity that you interact with that helps you. I suppose it wouldn't be as direct. similarly the jungle plants seem to be different entities.

2018-07-20 14:15:37 UTC  

Yeah mushrooms was actually an alternate method of suicide, instead of actually offing myself, i substituted it with an ego death instead. Dont regret it at all. I genuinely do believe that these substances have their merits and values, but I do oppose the recreational abuse of it.

2018-07-20 14:16:25 UTC  

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2018-07-20 14:17:07 UTC  

as I was saying earlier I think that sages and scientists are similar, in that the environments that they need to go to to find truth are potentially remote and hazardous, and the lessons learned are more important than the laboratories.. if you get the message hang up the phone

2018-07-20 14:17:08 UTC  

and 10 grams i think is way more than the necessary threshold, that's losing complete control i would imagine, I havent gone above 3grams yet honestly.

2018-07-20 14:17:27 UTC  

5 is the usual heroic dose level

2018-07-20 14:18:23 UTC  

Yeah agreed with that, but ive heard some of the garbage many of those psychonauts return with... not the best of intentions

2018-07-20 14:18:43 UTC  

more is better because you don't really have any options and your entire ego is obliterated immediately, you don't have enough consciousness to notice entities or spirits on the way, just exposure to the torrential river of all creation

2018-07-20 14:18:57 UTC  

obviously don't do that on a nite out in long st

2018-07-20 14:19:24 UTC  

Yeah 5grams is a lot for something that tastes like shit lol, honestly thats why i never got to 5grams, i get to a point of wanting to vomit... and this is coming from someone that doesnt even like normal veggie mushrooms lol

2018-07-20 14:19:44 UTC  

lol

2018-07-20 14:19:45 UTC  

shame

2018-07-20 14:19:52 UTC  

I love regular mushrooms

2018-07-20 14:20:23 UTC  

Yeah i got that full experience with DMT instead, shorter experience than mushrooms, but jam packed with experiences.

2018-07-20 14:20:25 UTC  

but there is a mental association that makes shrooms taste worse over time, or at least they did for me for ages

2018-07-20 14:20:59 UTC  

I used to use rooibos tea sometimes and then I couldn't even drink normal rooibos for a while

2018-07-20 14:24:57 UTC  

I fast 2-4 days a week.

2018-07-20 14:25:28 UTC  

Been doing that for about 9 or 10 months now.

2018-07-20 14:25:59 UTC  

Lost a shit ton of weight

2018-07-20 14:26:07 UTC  

Cured my own asthma

2018-07-20 14:26:30 UTC  

water fast?

2018-07-20 14:26:54 UTC  

And some really really cool shit will happen to you if you are disciplined enough.

2018-07-20 14:27:15 UTC  

yup. and black rooibos tea

2018-07-20 14:27:19 UTC  

you only do water fast or not fasting, no intermittent fasting?

2018-07-20 14:31:06 UTC  

It's about achieving the desired state of mind. You have to balance your slave life with your spiritual life. Fasting too much makes you too happy and woo-woo and I still have to pay the bills. And for me to feel stress free, relaxed and generally awesome - I need to fast two to four days a week to maintain my Zen space.

2018-07-20 14:32:05 UTC  

I prefer the intermittent fasting, reserve my 3 day fast for easter holidays, very convenient, and what better time to fast than the time when chocolate is so abundant lol, self restraint and self mastery of a high degree lol

2018-07-20 14:33:41 UTC  

I want to see where this whole thing can go.

2018-07-20 14:34:04 UTC  

don't stop until you can levitate

2018-07-20 14:34:22 UTC  

Best way to try and describe the nature of man is just to bite the bullet and prove everything for yourself.

2018-07-20 14:35:13 UTC  

I can agree with that, just a pity for many they can also bullshit themselves...

2018-07-20 14:35:24 UTC  

Michael Jackson had the right idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwq6NrXRtns