Message from @rob

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2018-07-20 13:49:16 UTC  

Picture if you will the Wise Man of the idyllic small village in the mountains. What is the role of the holy man of the village? Obviously he is the spiritual leader. He is also the political adviser to the Chief. He is also the engineer and the doctor. He is also the medicine man. So in my view, Spirituality is knowledge as well the ability to think and reason logically and critically. To have the answers. And isn't that what people want from their God, answers? Spiritual people live for helping others, materialist people live only for themselves. The spiritual man understands the nature of his reality as well as his place in it. And this ability is meant for everyone. It's natural and physiological. Not ideological.

2018-07-20 13:51:12 UTC  

@Deejay from Earth interesting, I like the idea of the Renaissance man being able to do a bit of everything, and certainly today you can be quite a prolific tinkerer in the material realm in mainstream society

2018-07-20 13:51:23 UTC  

Lol all of that can only be understood by ideas... Why do you oppose using a reasonable definition for ideology, why do you insist using your definition that vilifies it? Where is this prejudice rooted?

2018-07-20 13:51:51 UTC  

I think we're tripping over words here

2018-07-20 13:51:57 UTC  

A three day fast is what Easter is actually about. Your old immune system dies and is born again.

2018-07-20 13:52:35 UTC  

I think ideas and ideology are different

2018-07-20 13:52:47 UTC  

I think ideology is the worship of ideas

2018-07-20 13:52:48 UTC  

Elaborate

2018-07-20 13:53:06 UTC  

so you have an ideology

2018-07-20 13:53:14 UTC  

that is the idea that you worship

2018-07-20 13:53:15 UTC  

It's a collection of ideas, axioms and maxims, principles.

2018-07-20 13:53:25 UTC  

like capitalism, etc

2018-07-20 13:53:38 UTC  

so in the outside world it is fine

2018-07-20 13:53:49 UTC  

there are loads of ideologies

2018-07-20 13:54:26 UTC  

but in the spiritual world it isn't fine to subscribe to any ideology that doesn't put a personal connection between you and god

2018-07-20 13:56:28 UTC  

Yes and ideology shapes your perception right? Influences your choices and the way you understand and interact with the material world. It's a collection of ideas that shape your understanding. Religion is probably the better term to define the worshipping of an idea.

2018-07-20 13:57:20 UTC  

so if you 'believe' in social justice you put the cause of social justice in your heart, if you 'believe' in capitalism you put money in your heart

2018-07-20 13:57:32 UTC  

and you always try to accumulate more of that

2018-07-20 13:58:25 UTC  

but the point of the major religions was working out that actually you have this port in your heart to the source of all creation and that is the only thing worth going there

2018-07-20 13:58:28 UTC  

Yes, those ideas you prefer, form your ideological perception of the world and w what you value.

2018-07-20 13:59:42 UTC  

read the Crichton PDF "Today, one of the most powerful religions in the Western World is
environmentalism. Environmentalism seems to be the religion of choice for
urban atheists. Why do I say it's a religion? Well, just look at the beliefs.
If you look carefully, you see that environmentalism is in fact a perfect
21st century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths.
There's an initial Eden, a paradise, a state of grace and unity with nature,
there's a fall from grace into a state of pollution as a result of eating
from the tree of knowledge, and as a result of our actions there is a
judgment day coming for us all. We are all energy sinners, doomed to die,
unless we seek salvation, which is now called sustainability. Sustainability
is salvation in the church of the environment. Just as organic food is its
communion, that pesticide-free wafer that the right people with the right
beliefs, imbibe." consider how these hardwired biological slots get filled by ideology

2018-07-20 14:01:44 UTC  

Same story being repeated in a fresh perspective... The present rhymes like that with history.

2018-07-20 14:02:49 UTC  

My basis is the physiological reality, as I said the chakra system maps to the glands in the endochrine system, your body produces extremely powerful tryptamines and an orgasm in your pineal gland could definitely trigger a spiritual experience, all of the religions seem to be started by someone who unlocks the secret and chooses to help humanity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva)

2018-07-20 14:03:44 UTC  

also each religion gets centralised and corrupted, like clockwork

2018-07-20 14:03:46 UTC  

Agreed, and corruption always looks for a way to subvert the truth... 😑

2018-07-20 14:04:04 UTC  

Lol

2018-07-20 14:04:18 UTC  

we are in cospiracy corner though, have you read the law of one, ra material?

2018-07-20 14:04:55 UTC  

channeled work allegedly from Ra

2018-07-20 14:05:08 UTC  
2018-07-20 14:05:50 UTC  

I haven't read that much yet to be honest, I've only awoken from my slumber about 4 years ago. So much to catch up and learn still, but so much garbage to sift through.

2018-07-20 14:06:01 UTC  

absolutely

2018-07-20 14:06:08 UTC  

so much disinfo

2018-07-20 14:06:21 UTC  

and distraction

2018-07-20 14:06:34 UTC  

that's why seeking within is important

2018-07-20 14:07:43 UTC  

Yes, this is why i also put so much emphasis on reasoning... I need to be able to discern, don't want to fall in the trap of doing with whatever my feelings dictate.

2018-07-20 14:09:21 UTC  

if you are truly ready for the truth you then 10+day fast or you eat 10+g of 🍄 and it's always been there

2018-07-20 14:10:28 UTC  

but I wouldn't recommend hanging around, I think that the spirit world has good and evil, just like the material world, I think exploring extremely deeply is a calling

2018-07-20 14:10:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/469868771897638933/unknown.png

2018-07-20 14:11:08 UTC  

free will is the whole point of this reality