Message from @MR VLAK
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Doppler effect proves that the stars and we are moving through the universe.
@MR VLAK It's stationary until you can prove otherwise. Your entire model is based on an unproven assumption.
If FLat Earthers believe in the doppler effect, then they should believe that the starts are moving based on the same logic
@MR VLAK You can only reason and deduce logically if you start from a proven base-foundation - which you don't have. So you may call it "logic" but it's not really that, because I can reverse engineer every single one of your claims back to it's root where every single one of them will fall apart.
This is what building your foundation on a rock is all about.
That's what's interesting about your logic. You start from a proven base and when it doesn't match your agenda you turn to another direction. I have shown it in our discussion multiple times.
I have come to the conclusion you are in to deep and by accepting even the slightest possibility of anything else would be in too much of a conflict of your beliefs.
@MR VLAK You have only linked articles that triggers your confirmation bias. You have not proved anything. Flat Earth is a huge field and there's lots of avenues that can be debated until the cows come home, but ultimately doesn't prove anything either way.
If that is so why do you not accept that you can be right and wrong?
Stick to what we can prove. You will not convince me logically I guarantee you that.
@MR VLAK I know for a fact it's flat and stationary - all the science is there. All the logic is there. I'm not here trying to figure out what shape it is.
Why would we be conditioned to believe a round earth?
@MR VLAK Because you don't teach your slave gangs how to make guns and gunpowder. Smart people can't be controlled so easy.
Being a product of the system makes you believe in the system too. People will even defend it.
Just to point out something, vlak has a good point though, you can't accept that you might be wrong, which is problematic... All the same rhetoric applies to you too DeeJay, you too could be taught incorrectly with regards to an agenda, and you too are essentially a product of a system that you believe in and even defend... The measure here is that you both are equal, so unless you don't accept the golden rule, and treat one another as equal, you will never get anywhere in terms of being able to reason.
Flat earthers you just jump off the edge tbh
the state of having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes, especially as relating to behavioural decisions and attitude change.
Lol this applies to you equally too hey
@Sheamus I don't agree with much of anything you said there. This is not about the art of the debate. This is about what we can prove. It's all about the science. Why is it then that only the flerfer has to prove his model and not the globulist? Why should I see the other party as an equal when right from the get-go I am not being treated as such? I have not seen ONE globe proof even worth considering.
Brian Cox is a nothing but a pseudo-intellectual and a fraud.
lol
That right there is your problem DeeJay.. You might not care, but the people that pay attention see you for what you are, any chance of reasoning is lost with you because you break the trust of the golden rule. You are literally dictating, not reasoning.
its not the person I am showing you. I am showign you objects falling in a vacuum. Saying you dislike the person and therefor do not entertain it proves Shaemus' point
He's a proven liar and has no credibility whatsoever.
I will edit him out and his voice
there no person I dont even know that you hate
@MR VLAK So balls and feathers prove that balls and feathers can fall in a vacuum. Does it prove the vacuum exists? Nope.
Gravity... Gravity exists
Prove it.
And tell me that was a perfect vacuum?
Open your mind. I will sent you some DMT to restart the system
I believed the lies for 44 years. I wasn't born a flerfer.
Two objects of different densities falling at the same acceleration.. gravity..