Message from @MR VLAK

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2018-08-09 14:56:59 UTC  

@MR VLAK On the spinning ball, when you level something with a spirit level, what is the frame of reference the spirit level uses? What are you leveling say the table TO? Where does the spirit-level get its frame of reference from?

2018-08-09 14:57:07 UTC  

Bring a boat and measure at intervals like the experiment I shared

2018-08-09 14:57:49 UTC  

you want me to say sea level right?

2018-08-09 14:58:16 UTC  

Height above mean sea level. Height above mean sea level (AMSL) is the elevation (on the ground) or altitude (in the air) of an object, relative to the average sea level datum.

2018-08-09 14:58:25 UTC  

mean is another word for average...

2018-08-09 15:02:54 UTC  

@MR VLAK No I mean where is the original frame of reference physically located on the spinning ball? Sea-level is always parallel to the spirit-level. Because a ball contains no level anything. It's a ball with a center pivot point. How is a curved ocean level to a plane?

2018-08-09 15:03:14 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477129740172525589/unknown.png

2018-08-09 15:03:35 UTC  

gravity

2018-08-09 15:03:49 UTC  

plane - (of a bird or an airborne object) soar without moving the wings; glide.

2018-08-09 15:04:19 UTC  

So I can now safely call the hand-planer a hand-bird - by your logic.

2018-08-09 15:05:17 UTC  

words have multiple meanings, you spoke about a airPLANE... i gave you the reference

2018-08-09 15:06:45 UTC  

Funny how you picked the last definition.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477130624507838476/unknown.png

2018-08-09 15:07:15 UTC  

yeah cause you spoke about a AIRplane

2018-08-09 15:09:53 UTC  

So I checked out your experiments...

2018-08-09 15:10:03 UTC  

the aether ones

2018-08-09 15:10:44 UTC  

Great.

2018-08-09 15:14:50 UTC  

I cannot come to a conclusion as there is no proof that aether exists and as such the fact that those experiments do not have a concise conclusion does not tell me the earth is not moving. If anything it could possibly be used to prove that Luminiferous aether does not exist or is not required for light to move through out the universe. All these possibilities could be right or wrong including the possibility that the earth is not moving. So sorry it did not help me 😔

2018-08-09 15:15:50 UTC  

what is your views on Gravity? anything new?

2018-08-09 15:21:02 UTC  

https://youtu.be/z7tIbwK0ulM Those experiments explained in more detail.

2018-08-09 15:22:02 UTC  

@MR VLAK Nope. Not even I can disprove someone's imagination.

2018-08-09 15:28:24 UTC  

@Deejay from Earth but you understand that gravity has nothing to do with magnetism now?

2018-08-09 15:29:23 UTC  

@MR VLAK No I understand that Gravity doesn't exist but Magnetism does.

2018-08-09 15:31:32 UTC  

its different from magnetism as that works on the different states of molecules (+/-)

2018-08-09 15:32:03 UTC  

here is a experiment you can do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_qreV5A4gA

2018-08-09 15:34:20 UTC  

Please explain the details of how this experiment works, what it proves and how I should replicate it. I don't understand what is happening there at all. Thanks.

2018-08-09 15:41:49 UTC  

No worries. a ruler is hung from a ladder at its centre with two identical masses on either side to balance it. Two larger objects (masses) are placed evenly spaced from the masses on the ruler on opposite sides till it is not moving. Once a equilibrium is found one can move one of the large masses away and document the movement of the ruler. What is happening is that mass on the ruler is still closest to the large mass that did not move gets pulled towards it. The counter acting gravitational force on the opposite end was moved and weakened it such that the equilibrium is broken, this makes the ruler move.

2018-08-09 15:42:03 UTC  

I hope I explained it sufficiently

2018-08-09 15:42:36 UTC  

The Universal Theory of Gravity is often taught in schools as a fact, when in fact it is not even a good theory.

First of all, no one has measured gravity for every atom and every star. It is simply a religious belief that it is "universal".

Secondly, school textbooks routinely make false statements. For example, "the moon goes around the earth." If the theory of gravity were true, it would show that the sun's gravitational force on the moon is much stronger than the earth's gravitational force on the moon, so the moon would go around the sun. Anybody can look up at night and see the obvious gaps in gravity theory. https://ncse.com/library-resource/gravity-its-only-theory

2018-08-09 15:43:35 UTC  

dude.. the closer the object is to a mass the more the force. It is exponetial

2018-08-09 15:44:13 UTC  

@MR VLAK Are there any assumptions as to the alleged axial rotation in the gravitational theories?

2018-08-09 15:45:22 UTC  

no. it does not explain or attempt to explain rotation of planets only orbiting of planets

2018-08-09 15:45:49 UTC  

Furthermore, gravity theory suggests that the planets have been moving in orderly orbits for millions and millions of years, which wholly contradicts the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

2018-08-09 15:46:00 UTC  

Ever heard of the Law of Entropy?

2018-08-09 15:48:03 UTC  

I hope we can get past the definitions of theories and laws in science. I am looking into your last comment, give me a moment I cant remember all the laws etc

2018-08-09 15:49:15 UTC  

@MR VLAK And that experiment" together with your explanation really doesn't prove anything. If you balance and counter-balance things on a floppy tape-measure of course things will re-balance itself.

2018-08-09 15:50:33 UTC  

Its not a floppy tape, its a wood ruler. The only thing that is moved is the large mass at one point that never touched the ruler

2018-08-09 15:51:13 UTC  

So "The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time. The total entropy can remain constant in ideal cases where the system is in a steady state (equilibrium), or is undergoing a reversible process."

2018-08-09 15:53:26 UTC  

how does this relate to the solar system in your opinion?

2018-08-09 15:54:52 UTC  

187) The second law of thermodynamics, otherwise known as the law of entropy, along with the fundamental principles of friction/resistance determine the impossibility of Earth being a uniformly spinning ball. Over time, the spinning ball Earth would experience measurable amounts of drag constantly slowing the spin and lengthening the amount of hours per day. As not the slightest such change has ever been observed in all of recorded history it is absurd to assume the Earth has ever moved an inch.

2018-08-09 15:55:33 UTC  

Law of entropy - everything degrades over time.