Message from @Guss

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2018-08-12 05:08:56 UTC  

there was water before God created land. No containers...

2018-08-12 05:09:37 UTC  

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2018-08-12 05:11:11 UTC  

Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

2018-08-12 05:12:32 UTC  

Yeah I'm pretty sure the waters were divided from the waters and there is water above the firmament. Can't really prove that yet but its interesting.

2018-08-12 05:13:32 UTC  

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2018-08-12 05:15:31 UTC  

That is very interesting actually. It illustrates it as a globe with "earth" as a flat circle inside it.

2018-08-12 05:16:27 UTC  

"The face of the waters" - sphere doesn't have a face it's the same from all sides. But like the face of a clock is flat. Water is provably and logically flat dude. And seventy percent of the earths surface is covered in water.

2018-08-12 05:17:53 UTC  

@MR VLAK I am truly sick and tired of talking to you now. We can agree that we will never agree and move on.

2018-08-12 05:18:35 UTC  

We can. But then we have to agree not to post Flat or Sphere Earth stuff here?

2018-08-12 05:21:16 UTC  

@MR VLAK Nope, just that you and me will not ever come to a conclusion on the matter. All avenues have been exhausted here and from here it's just a waste of everyone's time. Go do some actual research, and come back when you actually have some proof of your own you can back up with more than just your mouth.

2018-08-12 05:22:38 UTC  

Fine we carry on then. Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form. Yet you claim it flat because a sphere doesn't have a face

2018-08-12 05:24:24 UTC  

Rather selective in your interpretations...<:Hmm2:469473861654806531>

2018-08-12 05:33:11 UTC  

do you believe that Horus & Jesus share the same story?

2018-08-12 05:34:41 UTC  

just by the way read what Satanists have to say about FE's http://www.satanicsf.com/flat-earthers-satan-conspiracy/

2018-08-12 06:02:19 UTC  

Jews are actually black

2018-08-12 07:07:44 UTC  

Checking out some spots at the Vaal Dam to go and repeat the Bedford Level experiment.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/478097239982604289/3b113d1c-32e3-4d08-a50d-265789da27ce.png

2018-08-12 07:09:33 UTC  

Elvis is alive

2018-08-12 07:09:50 UTC  

Will be doing day and night tests. Got houses at both ends which will make it much easier to spot targets at night across the water.

2018-08-12 07:10:14 UTC  

Aliens helped build Stonehenge

2018-08-12 07:13:30 UTC  

Beyonce is a clone

2018-08-12 07:14:14 UTC  

Thanks I cannot wait to see refraction of light proven

2018-08-12 07:20:12 UTC  

Please take air temperature measurements so we can calculate the amount of refraction

2018-08-12 07:21:26 UTC  

LOL - Andy Cook (dizzib)
Kernel event ID 41 error

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2018-08-12 07:23:40 UTC  

Errrrrr
Why not tip the line more backward, it will be even longer
The code is fucked, despite this. It can't even calculate my input.
See what happens if I mount my camera 100mm above the ground. Oops

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/478101249489895425/unknown.png

2018-08-12 07:23:40 UTC  

This app calculates how much a distant object is obscured by the earth's curvature, and makes the following assumptions:
light travels in straight lines

2018-08-12 07:23:44 UTC  

Lol

2018-08-12 07:29:52 UTC  

You can see 1.1 km far, and the curve change to 3 m drop over the 7km, hu, uh? Hi Pythagoras.

2018-08-12 07:35:41 UTC  

DaveGreasley commented on Apr 15
Should you not be accounting for refraction when calculating the hidden height? This is explained by Andrew Young here:

https://aty.sdsu.edu/explain/atmos_refr/horizon.html
https://aty.sdsu.edu/explain/atmos_refr/bending.html

If you aren't going to include this in the calculation then you at least need to state so clearly on the calculator page.

2018-08-12 07:39:09 UTC  

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amarkulin commented on Aug 30, 2017
Please, could you explain how did you get h1 calculation from the second line?
Where is gone the 2Rh1 from squaring the left side of equation?
Thanks!

2018-08-12 07:39:55 UTC  

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CryptoPunk commented on Sep 2, 2016
The formula laid out doesn't caluclate distance well, as line of sight is not the measure of distance across a globe. instead I would make the assumption that the distance is an arc segment. This has the added benefit that when d_surface_0 < d_surface_1, the heigh for an obscuring object is calculated.

Example python code

from math import pi,inf,acos,cos
R=6371*1000
h_1 = 2
d_surf_0 = R*pi

theta_1 = acos(R/(h_1+R))
d_surf_1 = R*theta_1
print("horizon: %.02f" % d_surf_1)
d_surf_2 = d_surf_0 - d_surf_1
theta_2 = d_surf_2/R
if theta_2 > pi/2:
h_2 = inf
else:
h_2 = R/cos(theta_2)-R

print("height: %.02f" % h_2)

2018-08-12 07:52:39 UTC  

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__Experiment 1: Watch a lunar eclipse__
Things you’ll need: functioning eyes, the moon, and a telescope (optional).

Every now and again, the Earth passes between the moon and the sun, completely blocking its light and casting a shadow across the moon called a lunar eclipse. If you look closely while this happens, you would notice that the Earth’s shadow forms an arc as it creeps across our view of the moon.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/478108541194862603/moon-1024x290.png

2018-08-12 07:53:22 UTC  

You might respond, “You’ve shown the Earth is round, but couldn’t it be round, but still flat — a flat disc?” Well, your eyes and telescope would also spot the 3D spherical nature of the moon. The Flat Earth Society does admit that the moon, the sun and other planets are indeed spherical, but claim that the “Earth is not a planet,” and unlike other celestial bodies, is flat.

So let’s ignore the moon for now and examine the other member of the eclipse trifecta: the sun.

2018-08-12 07:56:03 UTC  

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__Experiment 2:__
The horizon is one of the easiest ways to validate the Earth’s curvature. As the sun dips behind the horizon, it slips from your view in a bottom-up direction. If you watch the sunset while lying on your back, and then hop up as the last rays disappear, then you should be able to see the sunset again.

2018-08-12 08:00:27 UTC  

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2018-08-12 08:00:42 UTC  

Flat Earther concepts don’t stack up, especially when placed against modern technology like global air travel…or telescopes.

Instead, their ideas require leaps of faith that far outpace a 5’0 teenager stretching his fingers toward a rim.

Fake science
But when science experiments are performed incorrectly they can appear to give the opposite result. If they are shared through social media, these false ideas can be spread quickly with no one to point out their flaws. One common example is the Bedford Level experiment, a form of which was first carried out in 1838 and used to "prove" the Earth was flat for over 30 years before an explanation was found.

2018-08-12 08:03:16 UTC  

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This experiment involved placing a marker at a set height at either end of a canal about six miles long. If the Earth is round, then one marker should appear lower than the other when viewed at the same time through a telescope because the furthest marker would have fallen away with the curvature of the Earth. But it was reported that the markers are the same height, suggesting the Earth is actually flat. Modern day Flat Earth theorists still quote this experiment.

2018-08-12 08:04:10 UTC  

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The problem is this doesn't take into account the optical effect of the air over the intervening water, which bends or "refracts" the light as it travels from the marker to the telescope and makes it look like they are the same height. The solution is to use multiple markers along the length of the canal which, when observed, all appear to be at different heights.

Perhaps the most impressive experiment that even schools can do today is to send a camera up in a high-altitude balloon. The footage will show that from a high-enough vantage point you can see the curvature of the Earth. This is what Mike Hughes will find if he ever makes his rocket work.

Ultimately, arguing on the internet is not the best way forward for any scientific endeavour. We need to provide the means for people to test these theories themselves and to understand the results they get.

2018-08-12 08:08:14 UTC  

50) If the Earth were truly a globe, the Arctic and Antarctic polar regions and areas of comparable latitude North and South of the equator should share similar conditions and characteristics such as comparable temperatures, seasonal changes, length of daylight, plant and animal life. In reality, however, the Arctic/Antarctic regions and areas of comparable latitude North/South of the equator differ greatly in many ways entirely inconsistent with the ball model and entirely consistent with the flat model.

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