Message from KoninginTanja in Willem Petzer Live Chat #theology

2018-07-24 14:05:38 UTC  

because he will push it as far as discussions will allow then say we want action=mass unrest=violence

2018-07-24 14:13:45 UTC  

I doubt malema would be able to control that army, even he has his own doubts, capturing him probably be a waste of effort to be honest.

2018-07-24 14:27:10 UTC  

You will go to jail LOL

2018-07-24 14:32:26 UTC  

capturing him once war has started, post-jail SA if you like

2018-07-24 16:55:14 UTC  

@Graeme the Guerrilla Were you listening to Michael Knowles? On his show yesterday he quoted that passage

2018-07-24 16:59:21 UTC  

@rob That's a good point. One finds quite a lot of paganism amongst White Nationalists. That evil is not the remedy. There was a lot of occultism in the Nazi movement and that, I'm convinced, was central to its demise. Yes the church today has fallen very low and seems very wishy washy but the answer is to return unto the Lord not turn away from Him further into total spiritual darkness. 2 Chronicles 7:14

2018-07-24 17:41:33 UTC  

The theory that both racial nationalist socialism and communism were created to destroy christianity (by satanists) resonates with me, and I think a default reaction of people rebelling against the one side is to push them towards the other

2018-07-24 19:33:14 UTC  

@Sheamus Since this is a place for discord, I will write a short exegesis to explain why I believe what I believe and I challenge anyone to refute it with scripture. In fact, I would challenge anyone who would seek to refute said exegesis to debate me in front of their congregation. I am more than willing to travel.

2018-07-24 19:34:26 UTC  

@rob National Socialism is biblically correct and created by christians. It was explicitly stated to be a christian movement.

2018-07-24 19:35:36 UTC  

@rob Ever heard of positive Christianity?

2018-07-24 19:41:01 UTC  

@$P!KY\/!k!NG I just finished watching Justin Peters

2018-07-24 19:42:57 UTC  

@$P!KY\/!k!NG The Nazis were not Christians. Occultism was rife in that movement. Positive Christianity is not Christianity: it was developed as an alternative to Biblical Christianity. One does not need to make up weird paganistic religions to want to promote one's own culture. That motivation is from Satan who seeks to draw us away from Christ.

2018-07-24 19:43:58 UTC  
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2018-07-24 19:44:27 UTC  

hitler was an athiest isn't he like the poster child for vegetarian athiest?

2018-07-24 19:45:05 UTC  

Hitler was an Occultist

2018-07-24 19:45:09 UTC  

besides which, just because a bunch of nutters call themselves christians..... Lord's Resistance Army for example

2018-07-24 19:49:00 UTC  

Matthew 5
38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Prove that Hitler turned the other cheek, or even better, explain the reasoning for this, because if you can, you would know that he had no leg to stand on to justify war.

2018-07-24 19:49:11 UTC  

Matthew 5
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Prove that Hitler loved his enemies, and that he blessed them, and did good to them, and prayed for them.

2018-07-24 19:49:33 UTC  

If Hitler was Christian, he would be following the way of Christ would he not?

2018-07-24 19:50:52 UTC  

@Malcolm the Seceder have you seen vids of Justin Peters?

2018-07-24 19:54:35 UTC  

@KoninginTanja I haven't no. Worth a look?

2018-07-24 19:57:15 UTC  
2018-07-24 19:59:13 UTC  

Why would a satanist spend hours doing this painting?

2018-07-24 20:01:07 UTC  

that's probably what pissed the bankers off

2018-07-24 20:02:28 UTC

2018-07-24 20:02:28 UTC  

Ditsem! @$P!KY\/!k!NG, you just advanced to level 5!

2018-07-24 20:02:44 UTC  

just to clarify I believe the ideologies were both created in the late 19th century to replace religion, hitler might well have gone off script

2018-07-24 20:04:07 UTC  

Hitler only said those things to get the German nation on his side

2018-07-24 20:04:21 UTC  

@$P!KY\/!k!NG I don't think he was a satanist, but he definitely lost his way and his ideology went out the window. I've seen it a million times in my own life, if I don't do something that is under God's umbrella, it starts to pour.

2018-07-24 20:04:21 UTC  

Classic politics

2018-07-24 20:05:18 UTC  

He was definitely an Occultist. He sent numerous expeditions to the east in search of mystical artifacts etc

2018-07-24 20:06:13 UTC

2018-07-24 20:06:59 UTC  

@$P!KY\/!k!NG but sorry for interrupting your conversation. I am really not in a position to say who's Christian and who is not.

2018-07-24 20:08:47 UTC

2018-07-24 20:12:22 UTC  

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”

[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922,

2018-07-24 20:12:31 UTC  

Positive Christianity was a movement within Nazi German ranks which mixed ideas of racial purity and Nazi ideology with a dash of Christianity. Hitler used the term in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, stating: "the Party represents the standpoint of Positive Christianity". Even the Nazi Minister for Church Affairs explained that Positive Christianity was not dependent upon the Apostle's Creed, nor was it dependent on faith in Christ as the son of God, which Christianity relies heavily on, instead it was represented by the Nazis as "The Fuhrer is the herald of a new revelation". It's not what you think it is, just because he says so... I mean, lets reflect on the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea, do their claims align with their actions? If you want to be a PC (Positive Christian), then identify as one, no one is stopping you.

2018-07-24 20:14:23 UTC  

“Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another… while the
enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.309]

2018-07-24 20:14:52 UTC  

“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”

[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]

2018-07-24 20:15:19 UTC  

But the things people did in the name of Christianity ...😰 we don't need another Bloody Mary etc