Message from @Malcolm the Seceder
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Spoken like Alex Jones himself would approve of it lol
Many in the early church believed that the "sons of God" - of whom the nephilim are the children- were fallen angels. The view nowadays is that they are the descendants of Seth, i.e. believers, and the daughters of men are the daughters of the Cainites (Cain). And so it was a mixture of believers with the heathen
Following this view the nephilim- or giants- are mighty men of renown but who followed the heathen rather than the true religion. Some have also hypothesised that they may have been of great stature.
For we also read in Genesis 4:26:
And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord .
So it was in the line of Seth that true religion was carried followed
@Malcolm the Seceder yeah that's my understanding too... The fallen are those that married outside of the ideology, because the man always takes on the religion of the female as well... I suppose the lefty wild and free spirited hippy chicks ended being more tempting than the proper lady. Who knows why they fall
@Daniel van Straaten <:Willem:469475674508361739> <:Willem:469475674508361739> <:Willem:469475674508361739>
What's the theology quandary today then lads? @Daniel van Straaten @Sheamus @TruthCanary @HoppeanSnake_ZA
Have you seen this? Pretty thought provoking stuff. https://youtu.be/m_ga0gjX_34
Not a fan of T4G
Kevin de Young is a pretty solid guy though.
For that group
All that "young restless and reformed" is not for me. I prefer the Old, Settled Scottish Presbyterianism
Well there is variations in that group and he is by far the better of them if you want to group him with them.
Ditsem! @Daniel van Straaten, you just advanced to level 12!
However if you're looking for a book on the doctrine of God, James Dolezal's "All That is in God" is excellent!
That book appears to have been influential in Kevins talk. It is encouraging that this doctrine was taught to so many at T4G.
Do you ever listen to the Reformed Forum podcasts?
I did yes
There's some really good ones on there
any recommendations?
These two are excellent discussions with Dolezal. Very involved but worth the effort.
I wonder if @Willem Petzer get tought this doctrine in his theology course.
I would have thought so. If they're using a good systematic theology it should be there
Some reformed theologians seems not to be a fan of this doctrine.
https://tabletalkmagazine.com/posts/2017/11/unlatched-theism-an-examination-of-john-frames-response-to-all-that-is-in-god/
I enjoyed Carl Truemans podcast on this.
That's brilliant! Where'd you find it?
Oh yeah I see where 🤣
Here are some recordings of Unaccompanied Psalm Singing. This is the old way of singing in the Scottish Presbyterian Churches. Unfortunately it has become very rare and even many congregations which still do it have adopted modern translations of the Psalms. In my church we still use the 1650 Metrical Psalms which were approved by the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland.
We believe the Biblical rule of worship, amongst other things, requires the exclusive singing of the Psalms without musical accompaniment. Nowadays you'll tend to only find this form of worship in the Highlands and Islands of Scotland, but some congregations in the Lowlands still do it. It once was the norm in all Protestant churches.
The first video is an example of Gaelic Psalm Singing. The precentor "puts out the line" which means he songs the line of the Psalm himself and then the line is repeated with the whole congregation joining in. Below that are some English singings (which is the vast majority of Psalm singing now, including my own congregation). English singing is a bit more "polished" sounding than in Gaelic (depending on the congregation!) but still very nice. And of course Biblical.