Message from @Daniel van Straaten
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A very thorough treatment of a hugely influential theologian in South Africa and the world https://douglasdouma.wordpress.com/2018/07/04/gordon-clark-and-other-reformed-critics-of-karl-barth/
Highly recommended lectures on economics from a christian perspective. http://www.trinitylectures.org/MP3_downloads.php
"Theonomists ... where are they today? Oh, yeah, they're all Federal Visionists." Sean Gerety
Ditsem! @Daniel van Straaten, you just advanced to level 13!
What Bible translations/versions do people use? English, Afrikaans or other languages (I believe others exist)...
Emaciated girl: I'm bisexual.
Me: No love, you're just a slut.
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Police in the UK are utterly pathetic. No respect for them anymore. They're either tubs of lard who couldn't catch a shoplifting granny or gym freaks who think they're tough but literally run away from muslims. The only guys they can actually overpower are the Christians because we're civilised.
But hey that guy has no fear of man so all power to him.
Yeah it's just a matter of time man, they going to get sick and tired of us eventually.
Not if we get sick and tired of them first...
lol, then what?
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The burden which Habakkuk the prophet did see. O Lord , how long shall I cry, and thou wilt not hear! even cry out unto thee of violence, and thou wilt not save! Why dost thou shew me iniquity, and cause me to behold grievance? for spoiling and violence are before me: and there are that raise up strife and contention. Therefore the law is slacked, and judgment doth never go forth: for the wicked doth compass about the righteous; therefore wrong judgment proceedeth. Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you. For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not theirs. They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves. Their horses also are swifter than the leopards, and are more fierce than the evening wolves: and their horsemen shall spread themselves, and their horsemen shall come from far; they shall fly as the eagle that hasteth to eat. They shall come all for violence: their faces shall sup up as the east wind, and they shall gather the captivity as the sand. And they shall scoff at the kings, and the princes shall be a scorn unto them: they shall deride every strong hold; for they shall heap dust, and take it. Then shall his mind change, and he shall pass over, and offend, imputing this his power unto his god.
Habakkuk 1:1-11 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/hab.1.1-11.KJV
What are people's thoughts on supralapsarianism versus infralapsarianism?
Also, are we all equal before God?
@Daniel van Straaten So what's your answer?🤔
about supralapsarianism versus infralapsarianism?
Both
I found this quote interesting...
"The difference is that infralapsarianism puts the decree of election subsequent to the decree of the fall. ...If you wish to check various theologians you can look up Henry Bradford Smith, Louis Berkhof, my father, and oh well maybe Charles Hodge and I think you will find in all of them that they put the decree of election after the decree of the fall. My criticism of this is that they confuse logical sequence with temporal sequence."
"And my contention is that the logical sequence is precisely the reverse of the temporal sequence. A person chooses an end and then works back from the end to where he is now."
- GHC from the audio lecture on Predestination in the Old Testament
Since God is outside time, it seems His decrees does not have a chronology but rather each one follow logically after each other.
Regarding equality, equal in what sense?
We are under the same moral law (equal in this sense) and as Christians we will get rewarded according to our works. Unbelievers will get punished according to their works too. The works the Christian performs is by the enabling of the Holy Spirit and they don't earn their salvation by it but get rewarded in the next life. What those rewards will be I am not sure. By God's decree some Christians will perform more good works than others. Thus they are not equal in that sense.
The other inequalities we as humans have like looks, wealth and intelligence are insignificant to the above.
@Malcolm the Seceder there you go
@Daniel van Straaten Some food for thought👍
Ditsem! @Malcolm the Seceder, you just advanced to level 17!
Just heading into the prayer meeting now will respond laterz
Enjoy brother. wish I could join
BTW I don't agree with Peter Hammond here.
I haven't really delved into infra and supra laplarianism, so I'll use Daniels quote of reference, and I'm not sure how i think about it yet, I'll probably have to look into that. As for equal, there is right and there is wrong. It's only right that everyone in the right are righteously equal in their efforts to do what's right to the glory of the right. Lol and everyone in the wrong, well... they are all wrong, because they refuse to be equal, and to contribute towards the good and what's right. So yeah i don't think all will have equal outcome in God's eyes, but i certainly do think everyone gets the same chances, and equal opportunity we get, and we ought to be respect that to the best we can, but if others refuse to be equal, and refuse to reason... Then that inequity exists, and that ought to be recognized too.
There's an awful lot of responsibility on the choices we make lol, talk about carrying a burden.
I know that came of rather simple and not very complex..