Message from @Derde

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2018-08-20 16:44:10 UTC  

But the gospel is to all.

2018-08-20 16:44:20 UTC  

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

2018-08-20 16:44:30 UTC  

There's a lot of whosoever.

2018-08-20 16:44:32 UTC  

But not all who hear will be saved

2018-08-20 16:44:46 UTC  

And not everyone hears the Gospel either

2018-08-20 16:45:25 UTC  

Revelation 22:17 ... And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
The offer is to all.
They don't hear, because TULIP teaches that the gospel is ineffective to save.

2018-08-20 16:45:53 UTC  

You need something extra, that magic um.

2018-08-20 16:46:11 UTC  

They don't hear because they live in places of the world where the Gospel hasn't been preached

2018-08-20 16:46:17 UTC  

Anyway time to go home from work.

2018-08-20 16:46:23 UTC  

Thanks for the chat.

2018-08-20 16:46:37 UTC  

Go and tell them.

2018-08-20 16:46:40 UTC  

They're in the township 😃

2018-08-20 18:22:37 UTC  

"Whether or not Wilson wants to identify with the name federal vision, in the end, means little. The name is of minor importance. What is important is the content of his teaching. And that hasn’t changed. It is still false doctrine. Sure, there may be differences between Wilson and other men of the federal vision on certain points. But in the fundamentals they continue to promote false doctrine."

https://rfpa.org/blogs/news/doug-wilson-federal-vision-no-mas

2018-08-20 18:25:39 UTC  

Federal Vision 🤦🏻‍♂️

2018-08-20 19:55:37 UTC  

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2018-08-21 07:36:45 UTC  

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2018-08-21 07:36:56 UTC  

It's about hair folks.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469830219889377283/481366077562028032/1_Corinthians_117_For_a_man_indeed_ought_not_to_cover_his_head_forasmuch_as_he_is_the_image_and_glor.jpg

2018-08-21 09:37:29 UTC  

We don't know what Christ looked like which is why images purporting to be of him are a breach of the Second Commandment.

2018-08-21 10:01:59 UTC  

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2018-08-21 10:03:00 UTC  

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2018-08-21 10:10:46 UTC  

We do know that Christ who is the glory of God did not shame his head with long hair

2018-08-21 10:10:46 UTC  
2018-08-21 10:11:44 UTC  

@Derde That would be my thought. Did he have a crew cut though? Who knows? We certainly don't.

2018-08-21 10:14:18 UTC  

It's worth pointing out that what is considered an acceptable length of hair for a man has changed over the generations. In our day and age very short hair is considered manly hair. However, if one were to look at the portraits of men in the 16th and 17th centuries one might find something different.

2018-08-21 10:15:52 UTC  

Bunch of queers

2018-08-21 10:15:58 UTC  

But I also see no evidence that *short* hair was ever considered the norm for women, but *longer* hair for men than today.

2018-08-21 10:16:16 UTC  

Well I'd like to see what happened if you went up to King William of Orange and called him that

2018-08-21 10:17:03 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469830219889377283/481406372647403520/220px-King_William_III_of_England_1650-1702_lighter.jpg

2018-08-21 10:17:08 UTC  

Could he not read?

2018-08-21 10:17:32 UTC  

He was too busy overthrowing the Papist tyranny in Britain and installing hundreds of years of Protestant rule.

2018-08-21 10:17:33 UTC  

I guess

2018-08-21 10:19:52 UTC  

I'll bet he didn't anticipate his portrait showing up his small sins hundreds of years later.

2018-08-21 10:21:25 UTC  

Or armchair theologians

2018-08-21 10:56:14 UTC  

Most are. Few have dusty feet.

2018-08-21 10:56:53 UTC  

Anyway, we shouldn't be making pictures of Christ. Not helpful.

2018-08-21 11:01:40 UTC  

About social justice, I found this helpful. "While there are no natural positive rights, legally speaking, as far as what can be compelled by force, the moral law does require positive duties (read the moral law questions in WLC), that man, in order to act righteously, must perform. These duties mean others have their due, or positive rights, before God. If we fail to "endeavor, by all just and lawful means, to procure, preserve, and further the wealth and outward estate of others, as well as our own" when it is in our means to do so, it is sufficient cause alone for our condemnation according to divine justice. But these are not rights that can be protected or remedied by legal justice--not in a natural society. Legal justice may only compel negative duties in defense of our corresponding negative rights (natural rights), or positive duties contractually agreed to--which is really still a function of protecting our negative rights."

2018-08-21 11:36:07 UTC  

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@Willem Petzer ken jy die? Blykbaar Du Toit se suster.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1731486393838692/permalink/2167025210284806/
Linki Brand op dopperdagboek FB group: "C. Landman het 'n interessante vergelyking tussen haar en Abraham Kuyper se argumente gemaak in 'n artikel genaamd "Abraham Kuyper en Marie du Toit oor vrouestemreg" - verskeie plekke aanlyn beskikbaar. 'n Aanhaling hieruit: "Du Toit (1921:20) deel egter nie Kuyper se vrees dat vrouens deur stemreg die openbare lewe sal oorheers nie. Sy betreur, inteendeel, die feit dat vrouens onverskillig teenoor die politiek staan en hoegenaamd nie lojaal teenoor mekaar is nie. Sy wyt dit aan die feit dat vrouens 'n slegte selfbeeld het, nie glo dat daar iets groots uit hulleself na vore kan kom nie en bedreig voel as ander vrouens wel tot iets groots kom. Du Toit self (1921:118) glo dat 'n sintese van vrouens se private en openbare rolle 'n gelukkige ontwikkeling sal wees en haal daarvoor Jan Smuts aan wat sou gesê het dat vrouens se insig in sosiale kwessies openbaar gemaak moet word deur vrouens aan die politiek te laat deelneem en veral deur hulle insigte by (sosiale) wetgewing te laat geld."

"Kuyper (1914:23) skets drie situasies wat hy as die oorsake van vrouens se sug na stemreg sien:
* die valse indiwidualisine van die Franse Rewolusie;
* die opdringerigheid van die Anglosaksiese suffragette', en
* die toenemende aantal vrouens wat ongetroud bly."

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