Message from @Derde
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No I want to know from what context you are arguing. You accused MacArthur of not following Calvinism and I was responding to that. I assumed you considered yourself a Calvinist
There's a spectrum of Calvinism. TULIP pretends to answer great philosophical questions about salvation, but it does not claim to be the gospel. That's old-school calvinism. It's broadly compatible with salvation by grace through faith without works.
However, when you follow it to the hard conclusions and you stick to them doggedly, you are preaching salvation by faith with works.
(And for a bonus, you don't need the gospel, since it's God's secret election that ultimately saves, but that's off the point.)
TULIP was a response to specific complaints raised by the Remonstrants against the teaching of the Reformed churches. Those five points were never meant to encompass all Biblical teaching. There's a lot more to being Reformed than just the five points which is why, for example, MacArthur isn't Reformed. But those five points do accurately summarise the Biblical teaching on salvation by grace alone.
Which is why churches which use the Canons of Dordt as part of their offical subscription also subscribe other catechisms. Because on their own the Canons don't sufficiently summarise the Reformed faith
The British Presbyterian Churches subscribe the Westminster Standards which encompass the teaching of the Canons
Said Paul,
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
But if he was a TULIP'er, he would have acknowledged that the gospel is completely ineffectual and the real power is God's secret election, and only the elect can believe. He didn't.
Election refers to WHO God saves, not the HOW
But the gospel is to all.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
There's a lot of whosoever.
But not all who hear will be saved
And not everyone hears the Gospel either
Revelation 22:17 ... And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
The offer is to all.
They don't hear, because TULIP teaches that the gospel is ineffective to save.
You need something extra, that magic um.
They don't hear because they live in places of the world where the Gospel hasn't been preached
Anyway time to go home from work.
Thanks for the chat.
Go and tell them.
"Whether or not Wilson wants to identify with the name federal vision, in the end, means little. The name is of minor importance. What is important is the content of his teaching. And that hasn’t changed. It is still false doctrine. Sure, there may be differences between Wilson and other men of the federal vision on certain points. But in the fundamentals they continue to promote false doctrine."
https://rfpa.org/blogs/news/doug-wilson-federal-vision-no-mas
Federal Vision 🤦🏻♂️
We don't know what Christ looked like which is why images purporting to be of him are a breach of the Second Commandment.
We do know that Christ who is the glory of God did not shame his head with long hair
@Daniel van Straaten Exactly.
@Derde That would be my thought. Did he have a crew cut though? Who knows? We certainly don't.
It's worth pointing out that what is considered an acceptable length of hair for a man has changed over the generations. In our day and age very short hair is considered manly hair. However, if one were to look at the portraits of men in the 16th and 17th centuries one might find something different.
Bunch of queers
But I also see no evidence that *short* hair was ever considered the norm for women, but *longer* hair for men than today.
Well I'd like to see what happened if you went up to King William of Orange and called him that
