@Sheamus You need to decide but best keep your plans to yaself if you inclined to go this route

sorry wrong link, here is a slideshare on avoiding the Gulag https://www.slideshare.net/grugq/opsec-for-hackers

also summary of security protocols from various groups https://grugq.github.io/security-rules/

also note, whatsapp is encrypted end to end, discord is only encrypted from client to discord(ie they can read it on the discord end, potentially)

@Graeme the Guerrilla I'm not leading with any plans other than returning to the land God gifted our forefathers, and defending it with God on my side... But if there are plans in the making, id like to hear them out, as long as it doesn't involve more politics and giving more trust to governments ruled by men.

@rob wouldn't telegram be a bit more secure?

The land belongs to God and he gives it to whoever earned it.

@crazyBoer yes in God i trust.. Just need to defend it, if God be with us, who can be against us?

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Are any of you into horse riding?

@Sheamus Secure messengers other than Telegram include Signal, WhatsApp and Wire. The most popular is WhatsApp, with 1.5 billion users.

In contrast to Telegram, all of these have encrypted end-to-end communications turned on by default. So your chat data is stored, and encrypted, only on your phone or other device that you’re chatting from, and not on a server. They use the Signal Protocol (developed by the Signal messenger developers), which has been approved by encryption experts and is available for the public to evaluate and freely use.

governments have shut down telegram in countries

our govn would never be able to shut down whatsapp

without pissing off the EFF too

All right then @rob whatsapp is rather limiting though in some ways.

it's also fire and forget, your chats with your girlfriend are as safe as your super secret plans

you can message your dad about something serious without worrying too much

This site is also good for secret mesages.

UI is important

https://email-fake.com/

you can also create accounts on mailinator.com very easily (just type the name and check the account)

If a civil war brakes out will we even have acess to the Internet?

@crazyBoer No but shit i would love to learn. Really helpful skill.

we can have local communications sorted

ctwug and jwug could help provide coverage along with mesh wifi networks

if a few people still have big pipes out (doesn't take much, fibre is widespread) but that will all most likely be cut

Perhaps we should focus on the baiscs first firearms, food, and medical care?

Ditsem! @crazyBoer, you just advanced to level 7!

communication is more important

2 way radio?

otherwise panic

walkie talkies are good, smartphones are great

smartphones can work with wifi etc and are nondescript

My father was in the army. he always said that the first step in conquest is taking over the radio stations.

also they include GPS and video cameras which can be good for emergency and PR respectively

I was reading the book Wardog by Al J Venter and one of the stories talks about intercepting enemy radio communications in sierra leone, editing it and rebroadcasting

causing major panic

so secure communications and keeping heads level is key

dunno if I'm talking too much @Graeme the Guerrilla ?

Also horses are awesome.