Message from @Gonzo

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2018-08-12 08:15:14 UTC  

@Bird_Goes_Beep on the excel document it show "portions" which could mean what I said earlier about portions of the farm being expropriate not the whole farm

2018-08-12 08:15:26 UTC  

Aha. Thanks.

2018-08-12 08:18:44 UTC  

@Gonzo some erfs are split into portions on paper.

2018-08-12 08:19:09 UTC  

Check out Erf 145 in my posting

2018-08-12 08:19:34 UTC  

It doesn't mean its one owner

2018-08-12 08:23:40 UTC  

I think its one owner. If he ever wanted to sell a part of his farm then he sells that portion. Couple thousand hectares will be multiple portions in the registry 3/4.

2018-08-12 08:24:15 UTC  

EWC could claim one portion as I mentioned before.

2018-08-12 08:24:58 UTC  

All portions can be diffrent owners as it stands.

2018-08-12 08:25:44 UTC  

It could be but the list names the farm and associated portion.

2018-08-12 08:27:06 UTC  

Meaning one farm/one owner

2018-08-12 08:27:07 UTC  

Yes cause that is how properties are identified

2018-08-12 08:27:49 UTC  

If it has been subdivided and registered at the deeds office it's portion / erf

2018-08-12 08:28:16 UTC  

Otherwise each allocated portion would have been listed a farm name on that list

2018-08-12 08:28:34 UTC  

Meaning that portion 1 of erf 145 is I separate property in my example

2018-08-12 08:28:59 UTC  

Yip i get what you saying. The list however only list s one farm name

2018-08-12 08:29:57 UTC  

Which translates to one owner owning those portions

2018-08-12 08:30:01 UTC  

Nope

2018-08-12 08:30:22 UTC  

Farm names existed before erf numbers.

2018-08-12 08:31:00 UTC  

When erf numbers was allocated it was allocated to the then owner. If it was divided it was then given a portion number

2018-08-12 08:32:34 UTC  

the two properties in Weenen mapped out

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468388839799390210/478118589623173121/IMG-20180812-WA0009.jpg

2018-08-12 08:33:35 UTC  

Farmers own multiple portions

2018-08-12 08:34:03 UTC  

Apparently the other portions of erf 145 is owned by Blacks

2018-08-12 08:34:37 UTC  

That is word from my cousin that lives there

2018-08-12 08:36:13 UTC  

As you can see the land is not unproductive

2018-08-12 08:45:48 UTC  

Erf 145 and Erf 224 weenen could mean rented land as it is not clearly defined on that list.

2018-08-12 08:47:35 UTC  

video is up, and I'm going to bed.

2018-08-12 08:48:23 UTC  

the list indicates "unknown" for the property you mention

2018-08-12 08:48:24 UTC  

For interest sake Andries Pretorius's House is within 5km from those pieces of land in Weenen..

2018-08-12 08:49:40 UTC  

Yeah it has na ERF number so its part of town. I think that is where we are missing each other.Sorry man

2018-08-12 08:51:32 UTC  

Here it is. Its on Land Claimed land the family is still renting back from the community

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468388839799390210/478123360858144778/20150912_115136.jpg

2018-08-12 08:53:46 UTC  

This is now where argriforum lawyer will kick in. Interesting times ahead.

2018-08-12 08:55:23 UTC  

What are we (me) missing... how can this go on if the changes to the constitution is not in place?

2018-08-12 08:56:18 UTC  

Imagine the poor farmer next door to a new squatter camp

2018-08-12 08:56:18 UTC  

anyone here have a farm on the list?

2018-08-12 08:56:40 UTC  

Nope just know the owner of two

2018-08-12 08:57:43 UTC  

@MR VLAK You heard what Ernst said.... the farmer to contact them asap

2018-08-12 08:58:02 UTC  

Yeah trying to relay the message to him

2018-08-12 08:58:26 UTC  

@Guss nothing can happen without change in the constitution first. the owner can simply block it via the court,the ANC first needs to ammend then they can EWC

2018-08-12 09:00:21 UTC  

Ramaphosa now knows he needs to act before the elections in 2019, i think he was playing for time to get more votes for the ANC, hence delaying this process as much as he can.

2018-08-12 09:03:58 UTC  

Im going down the list of farms released on Afriforums Website. Starting with the property listed under Vhembe District Municipality. Both Lukin 643 MS and Salaita 188 MT are situated about 35km outside of Makhado (Louis Trichardt) Limpopo. These were originally owned and explored by Iscor (now Arcelor Mittal Steel South Africa) and massive coal deposits have been found in this area. Why would the ANC be looking for coal deposits? Especially when, due to Eskom encouraging consumers to consume less energy, has a surplus capacity? Looks like the Chinese didnt give us those investment deals for nothing boys.