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2018-08-14 20:57:28 UTC  

witcoin wat geploeg moet word ipv mine

2018-08-14 20:58:24 UTC  

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2018-08-14 22:26:41 UTC  

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2018-08-14 22:26:53 UTC  

ANC support has increased in the last ~year

2018-08-14 22:38:53 UTC  

13 point increase for the ANC and a 8 point drop by the DA. I don't think the DA dropping their support of BEE is going to help their optics amongst blacks. Maybe they're trying to draw supporters from the FF+ or something? Do you suppose the recent ANC action on EWC has something to do with their increase in the polls?

2018-08-14 23:12:16 UTC  

Right of center whites are already completely disillusioned with the DA, meanwhile the DA has just gotten ever more disorganised and cringey and they're now just panicking cutting their BEE support, the more lefty blacks that supported them just because they disliked Zuma will now dump them cus Cyril looks competent to them and DA is dropping BEE.

TL;dr

DA will receive it's first reduction in support since 1994

2018-08-14 23:17:32 UTC  

Lol saw that coming, and many others did so too. Good, they must learn.

2018-08-15 00:07:35 UTC  

since 94'? Wow! So do you think the ANC's support will rise, and take supporters from the DA and EFF? Do you think FF+ will get more votes than in the 2014 election as more Afrikaners come to the right/leave the DA?

2018-08-15 00:07:35 UTC  

Ditsem! @MaximusXVI, you just advanced to level 5!

2018-08-15 02:07:32 UTC  

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2018-08-15 05:37:07 UTC  

"What South Africa’s farmers face today is therefore not about poverty, or public pressure, or even land itself. They have been swept up in a far deeper political and ideological conflict, the battle of ideas, over whether South Africa will survive as a modern, free, and open society or whether it will sink into a socialist and later communist morass of poverty, oppression, and state control. It is a battle for the survival of the Judeo-Christian ethic in southern Africa. And what happens to farmers is very much the litmus test of who will win that battle – meaning, and given what is at stake for the whole country, that in many respects all South Africans are commercial farmers today.

For the time being, farmers will remain very much at the sharp end of that battle given the extent to which a decade of virtually unchallenged hate-filled rhetoric, racist propaganda, and falsehood has been directed against them and what they represent – that they stole the land, abuse their workers, refuse to work towards a better South Africa. Have no doubt that the propaganda was intentional to so stigmatise them that no one would dare come to their defence when the government inevitably turned on them – and used their case to erode property rights not just with respect to land but across the economy." - IRR, Frans Cronje

2018-08-15 06:11:34 UTC  

Why I don't want to stay next to the orange or vaal

2018-08-15 06:12:03 UTC  

You will eat the πŸ’© everyone sends your way

2018-08-15 06:34:31 UTC  

@MR VLAK that scares the shit out of me

2018-08-15 07:44:28 UTC  

Didn't ipsos get it wrong in 2014 . The DA is definitely going to gain support especially in the eastern cape. There was a big turnout in new voter registration over the past year in Sa,and more people will register in the coming months before the election also.

2018-08-15 07:44:36 UTC  

2019 is going to be interesting, i wonder if we will get more than 20 million people to vote

2018-08-15 07:58:35 UTC  

@MR VLAK At camps bay in CPT they pump sewerage close by where people swim. The shit literally drifts behind the break lol

2018-08-15 08:00:09 UTC  

lol there is a documentary called "Bay of Sewage"

2018-08-15 08:00:29 UTC  

>DA is definitely going to gain support especially in the eastern cape

2018-08-15 08:00:32 UTC  

dunno about that

2018-08-15 08:01:00 UTC  

EFF are campaigning hard in East London

2018-08-15 08:01:23 UTC  

and UDM is still a thing in the Transkei

2018-08-15 08:04:25 UTC  

and by campaigning hard, a friends offices tower over a township he can see and hear the EFF on megaphones preaching daily to crowds

2018-08-15 08:04:35 UTC  

Nope DA will defo gain,they won NMB in 2016 and have been working hard since to get the vote there.

2018-08-15 08:13:10 UTC  

We are gonna starve..

2018-08-15 08:14:12 UTC  

A hectre is roughly the size of a a rugby field at a stadium

2018-08-15 08:19:47 UTC  

Next up. You should not own more than R3million of assets

2018-08-15 08:19:47 UTC  

Ditsem! @DrLoLCat, you just advanced to level 3!

2018-08-15 08:20:57 UTC  

>land hunger among black South Africans who are in the [former] Bantustans

2018-08-15 08:21:24 UTC  

afaik the previous government spent a fuckload buying up white farms to form those Bantustans

2018-08-15 08:23:17 UTC  

i dont know a single white farmer in the old transkei area, what did they do with all those old farms/land?

2018-08-15 08:24:17 UTC  

Nor, as some analysts continue to suggest, does the present threat to property rights owe its origins to the ANC policy conference last December and can be regarded simply as a short-term political stratagem that will abandoned as soon as the next election has passed. There is a clear pattern of policy that predates that conference.

To trace its recent origins, go back at least to the 2007 attack on the willing-buyer/willing-seller policy at the ANC conference in Polokwane that informed the content of the draft Expropriation Bill of 2008, which in turn informed the dropping of the Proactive Land Acquisition Strategy in 2010, the drafting of the agriculture green paper of 2011 which forewarned of every risk from land ceilings to EWC – all of which would be drafted into policy and legislation within the next six years – the 20% proposal in the National Development Plan of 2012, the 50/50 proposal that came hot on its heels, the Land Restitution Amendment Act of 2014 that sought to provoke hundreds of thousands of new land claims without the budget to finance them, the subsequent Property Valuation Act via which the state sought to escape that budgetary bind, the Agri Land Bill that sought to make the state custodian of all agricultural land as the Green Paper had warned – thereby escaping any budgetary bind at all – the **Regulation of Land Holdings Bill that would cap farm sizes and force farmers to surrender the surplus**, and now the proposed amendment to the Constitution. Yet even this chronology contains just some prominent markers in the pattern; our analysts tracked 35 separate legislative, policy and regulatory attempts to erode property rights broadly since 2017 – all of which built one upon the other in a systematic and ordered manner.

2018-08-15 08:27:41 UTC  

2018-08-15 08:27:41 UTC  

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2018-08-15 09:23:36 UTC  

2018-08-15 09:23:36 UTC  

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2018-08-15 09:52:28 UTC  

How do you like Mantashes answer on β€œdo you think they will give up their land”?

2018-08-15 09:55:39 UTC  

Aweh almal!

Hoe lykit, al die oompies, aanties, mammies, pappies, klongens en jongens?