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A bit of help required - in his recent debate with the EFF chap, William mentions that a black engineer with 5 years experience out-earns a white engineer with the same. I'm trying to find a source on this to use in another video.
dont have a source but I do have a reason, generally black engineers can demand more (and they do) because they're in massive demand due to BEE.
corporates are hungry for black workers to boost their BEE ratings
@Bird_Goes_Beep. His dad is a engineer. If you look at state owned companies,which are more dominated by black people they employ (BBBEE) and promote them very quick ,hence why so many are in positions they don't belong,my dad worked for eskom he saw this first hand. In the private sector(dominated more by whites) it's different but they still have BEE regulations that force them to employ/promote people of colour,but less than state owned companies i would say.
Ah, damn. I was hoping for a study or citation I could use.
Thanks regardless.
I'm an engineer and within state owned companies this is the truth, white men don't get promoted. So that is why most of us leave the country for better jobs in markets where your skin colour has no influence on your value to a company.
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Oh, I'm sure it's true - I have friends and family who have similar anecdotes. I just don't want to say anything in a video that I cannot back up easily.
@Bird_Goes_Beep i believe this kind of study won't even be undertaken by the social 'sciences' researchers for fear of being excommunicated from their research communities...
I'd believe that.
@Bird_Goes_Beepmake your video about BBBEE rather than just the one thing willem said. How it discrimates againsts the minority etc etc.
It's an idea. I'm actually doing an analysis of a debate between Ernst Roets and Andile from the BLF.
Maybe you could contact ECSA (engineering Council of South Africa) maybe they have figures on the amount of members emigrating. Since they also keep track of their member's race maybe that would be insightful. What I can say is that of my Class of graduates (2004) just about all of them including me are working overseas
Yes thats a good idea,they should have data.
That's an excellent idea, thanks.
@Bird_Goes_Beepugh my brain hurts when watching those blf people,there is no intellectual capacity,just a hollow head. I call them #PeaBrains
Oh you are going to love this. A few requests to cover it over the last while since I did the other Roets /BLF debate and this one is even crazier.
Seriously, old Mingey is both terrifying and a lolcow.
On the ECSA members not all graduates register for membership since many of the new graduates emirates promptly after receiving their degree since most of the universities still conform to the Washington accord engineering degrees are recognised in many other countries and they could just as easily apply for professional registration in their new country.