Message from @Klipkop (Clip-Cop)

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2018-08-18 15:01:12 UTC  

lol

2018-08-18 15:02:07 UTC  

@Conscious Caracal great stream yesterday btw. I enjoyed!

2018-08-18 15:02:38 UTC  

Shot, brada. Appreciate all the great feedback

2018-08-18 15:05:26 UTC  

30k views.

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2018-08-18 15:17:39 UTC  
2018-08-18 15:49:16 UTC  

Aangename kennis @Marcellus Wallus, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** πŸ‘¨πŸΌβ€πŸŒΎπŸŽ™οΈ

2018-08-18 15:49:16 UTC  

2018-08-18 15:56:35 UTC  

!invite

2018-08-18 15:56:35 UTC  
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2018-08-18 16:17:07 UTC  

Aangename kennis @Magriet, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** πŸ‘¨πŸΌβ€πŸŒΎπŸŽ™οΈ

2018-08-18 16:30:48 UTC  

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2018-08-18 16:31:10 UTC  

Weiß Bier en rugby hier in München

2018-08-18 16:59:27 UTC  

Hey

2018-08-18 17:10:42 UTC  

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Aangename kennis @Pietman, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** πŸ‘¨πŸΌβ€πŸŒΎπŸŽ™οΈ

2018-08-18 17:59:20 UTC  

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Aangename kennis @[DPS]ADIO_BDMTRFKR - LEON, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** πŸ‘¨πŸΌβ€πŸŒΎπŸŽ™οΈ

2018-08-18 18:53:36 UTC  

2018-08-18 18:53:36 UTC  

Aangename kennis @Maxine777, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** πŸ‘¨πŸΌβ€πŸŒΎπŸŽ™οΈ

2018-08-18 19:05:58 UTC  

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2018-08-18 19:06:46 UTC  

Birthday drinks saam @Willem Petzer ons maak op vir gister se bday. Brannas en coke

2018-08-18 19:43:25 UTC  

A bit of help required - in his recent debate with the EFF chap, William mentions that a black engineer with 5 years experience out-earns a white engineer with the same. I'm trying to find a source on this to use in another video.

2018-08-18 20:30:09 UTC  

dont have a source but I do have a reason, generally black engineers can demand more (and they do) because they're in massive demand due to BEE.

2018-08-18 20:30:37 UTC  

corporates are hungry for black workers to boost their BEE ratings

2018-08-18 20:34:59 UTC  

@Bird_Goes_Beep. His dad is a engineer. If you look at state owned companies,which are more dominated by black people they employ (BBBEE) and promote them very quick ,hence why so many are in positions they don't belong,my dad worked for eskom he saw this first hand. In the private sector(dominated more by whites) it's different but they still have BEE regulations that force them to employ/promote people of colour,but less than state owned companies i would say.

2018-08-18 20:35:53 UTC  

Ah, damn. I was hoping for a study or citation I could use.

2018-08-18 20:35:57 UTC  

Thanks regardless.

2018-08-18 21:08:48 UTC  

I'm an engineer and within state owned companies this is the truth, white men don't get promoted. So that is why most of us leave the country for better jobs in markets where your skin colour has no influence on your value to a company.

2018-08-18 21:09:14 UTC  

2018-08-18 21:09:15 UTC  

Aangename kennis @zonyab, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** πŸ‘¨πŸΌβ€πŸŒΎπŸŽ™οΈ

2018-08-18 21:10:25 UTC  

Oh, I'm sure it's true - I have friends and family who have similar anecdotes. I just don't want to say anything in a video that I cannot back up easily.

2018-08-18 21:12:31 UTC  

@Bird_Goes_Beep i believe this kind of study won't even be undertaken by the social 'sciences' researchers for fear of being excommunicated from their research communities...

2018-08-18 21:12:48 UTC  

I'd believe that.

2018-08-18 21:15:06 UTC  

@Bird_Goes_Beepmake your video about BBBEE rather than just the one thing willem said. How it discrimates againsts the minority etc etc.

2018-08-18 21:15:47 UTC  

It's an idea. I'm actually doing an analysis of a debate between Ernst Roets and Andile from the BLF.

2018-08-18 21:16:37 UTC  

Maybe you could contact ECSA (engineering Council of South Africa) maybe they have figures on the amount of members emigrating. Since they also keep track of their member's race maybe that would be insightful. What I can say is that of my Class of graduates (2004) just about all of them including me are working overseas