Message from @Pepe the Impaler - DC Area

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2017-04-20 17:32:00 UTC  

We also have plenty of studies to pull from showing that diversity leads to more dissatisfaction and worse outcomes for democracy.

2017-04-20 17:34:36 UTC  

Spencer should be able to pull from all of our combined knowledge. We need to make a list of every question he was asked and build a template of responses and ways to improve the next speech. Introducing the speech with a hate fact clinic of figures and studies is a good idea. It would only take 5 minutes to build get a decent enough number of statistical points made so that you can move on to the esoteric stuff.

2017-04-20 17:36:09 UTC  

The counter to anybody that mentions "Guns Germs and Steel" should be to mention "A Farewell to Alms." It's a direct rebuttal that focuses on the industrial revolution. I would follow this up with a point on how advanced societies are now aging at an alarming rate while inequality explodes as a counter to the "But everything is always getting better" point.

2017-04-20 17:36:16 UTC  

Well, that young man cared.

2017-04-20 17:36:31 UTC  

Agreed on most counts.

2017-04-20 17:36:48 UTC  

Though I think the best response to the guns Germs and steel question is in fact "who the fuck cares"

2017-04-20 17:37:00 UTC  

It's an incoherent question. We are coevolutionary with our environment

2017-04-20 17:37:35 UTC  

Asking "what if we were in a different one" is just like saying "well what f u were a black African"

2017-04-20 17:37:44 UTC  

Nonsense

2017-04-20 17:38:00 UTC  

But this is about conversions, not speaking to the choir.

2017-04-20 17:39:00 UTC  

The next speech should be essentially the same middle and end but the beginning should address a lot of these points that I'm bringing up in more detail.

2017-04-20 17:53:02 UTC  

I just want hate seminars fam

2017-04-20 17:53:07 UTC  

Throw up 6 million facts

2017-04-20 17:53:09 UTC  

Go down the list

2017-04-20 17:53:17 UTC  

Or like "common counterpoints" etc.

2017-04-20 17:53:33 UTC  

"But there's more genetic variation within the races!"

2017-04-20 17:53:38 UTC  

See: lewontin fallacy

2017-04-20 18:17:08 UTC  

I'm skeptical of the premise that facts are the best way to persuade

2017-04-20 18:32:45 UTC  

I am too, but there should be a mixture of some sort.

2017-04-20 18:53:47 UTC  

Depends on the audience tbh

2017-04-20 19:31:09 UTC  

Nah the inspirational speeches is a good tactic

2017-04-20 19:31:30 UTC  

But he's gotta mix in redpills, or at least not flub questions like the "facts" one

2017-04-20 19:32:04 UTC  

He thinks he's talking to an auditorium of his own people but he's not, many of these squares haven't even heard a hate fact in their life

2017-04-20 19:32:37 UTC  

1) bowling alone 2) heroin epidemic 3) tv is gay

2017-04-20 19:32:52 UTC  

Just those three are enough to support the argument and make him not look dumb

2017-04-20 20:44:32 UTC  

I think that the studies showing that diversity leads to less social trust are pretty powerful.

2017-04-21 01:23:47 UTC  

Agreed. But individualists need to value Social trust as an abstract first

2017-04-21 01:24:10 UTC  

That's why Doolittle's work is important as much as I hate giving him credit

2017-04-22 18:26:05 UTC  

this timestamp in particular is important

2017-04-22 18:26:36 UTC  

tl;dr more intelligent people are better at running abstractions of themselves through simulated environments, such that their ideas can die instead of themselves.

2017-04-22 18:27:04 UTC  

less intelligent creatures are unable to reproduce themselves via abstraction, and must therefore create replications of themselves ( reproduction ) to run through the same simulations

2017-04-22 18:27:21 UTC  

not that it's a conscious effort obviously but this it's the biological-instictual manifestation

2017-04-22 18:28:33 UTC  

but this ties in with r / K selection, and though it doesn't form a necessary and sufficient clause, it at least suggests all r selected species / peoples cannot abstract -- and this is obviously borne out in most of the scientific studies of abstraction power vs. IQ vs. race

2017-04-22 18:30:19 UTC  

but I think it's interesting in that it provides a sort of causal explanation, which does away with a lot of the handwaving surrounding IQ vs. reproductive strategy and provides a solid explicit link

2017-04-22 18:30:54 UTC  

because otehrwise there's not really a reason per se why high IQ species can't also be r selected

2017-04-22 21:10:33 UTC  

Kind of interesting but r/K selection seems to be unsatisfactory for looking at human political beliefs anyway.

2017-04-22 21:21:57 UTC  

Fag

2017-04-22 21:39:19 UTC  

fag