A state that restricts your rights on their whims against your interests isn't a state either

It's tyranny

a tranny

Eh, I'm all for a strong leader

That's fine

nothing wrong with that

Muslims are masterrace no discuss

A strong leader isn't authoritarian necessarily

fuck off @Miomio

@D3VNT one that can do something is

^

Also wrong

Centralized power is bad juju

Give me one libertarian leader in history that was successful @D3VNT

Ergo, our three-piece government

Centralized power meant to deal with one group the same way will eventually come to treat potentially any other group the same way

@gabe_brouse >don't fight in ISIS in 2017

Do assasinated ones count

If you kill them they win

But on the real the US has had a few libertarian presidents

No, that means they failed. I don't care about what sounds nice on paper, if you want that go be a communist

But you do realize

@gabe_brouse No one sadly

The US is libertarian in nature, right

no

Oh boy here we go

Not since the whiskey rebellion you retard

that was when the state became federalized

It's almost like the Constitution still exists, or something

>ignoring my point

That was power being consolidated from a confederacy into a federalism

That, or we have very different ideas of what authoritarian means

Which is entirely possible

@gabe_brouse Federalism isn't anti libertarian though

do you agree with Washinton's suppression of the whiskey rebellion then?

authoritarianism is

but it isnt libretarian either @Papí

agreed @Extra Crispy

@gabe_brouse Would you classify Thomas Jefferson as libertarian?