Message from @Hyde Pod

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2018-12-10 10:09:01 UTC  

Even though my dad knows that if he tried to commit suicide I would fucking kill him xD

2018-12-10 10:10:30 UTC  

Hmmm

2018-12-10 10:10:36 UTC  

I do think euthanasia is a serious thing that doesn’t have a simple answer, so you need to be very careful when building the system to accomodate for it, especially the failsafes that will stop assholes from abusing it

2018-12-10 10:12:11 UTC  

Every system I've seen so far has been pretty poor. I'm not sure how it would be fixable, really. Maybe look up the Liverpool Care Pathway as a reference.

2018-12-10 10:15:36 UTC  

It’s also why I feel like distinctions or tiers would be necessary, since in the basic bitch example model I made, that red category would probably be at the highest risk for abuse, for the other 2 it is easier since medical doctors can back up for the Terminal or for people who lack the ability to care for themselves

2018-12-10 10:16:39 UTC  

I’m in two minds about it, I believe people should have the right to die with dignity but I do worry about unforeseen ways the system could be open to abuse

2018-12-10 10:21:44 UTC  

Loopholes... loopholes everywhere

2018-12-10 10:22:28 UTC  

This was to your previous comment. My internet is being flaky

2018-12-10 10:38:51 UTC  

My issue is that doctors themselves have an impitus to push people down this route due to lack of resources and time. It's easy to be cynical, and vulnerable people are very common.

2018-12-10 10:45:01 UTC  

And don't forget stupid

2018-12-10 10:45:21 UTC  

My god some people are as thick as mud

2018-12-10 10:45:32 UTC  

That too

2018-12-10 10:46:16 UTC  

Especially if you add 'greedy'.

2018-12-10 10:47:39 UTC  

There are lots of quite old people with unscrupulous children too. Instead of spending a few years pottering about gardening or similar, the temptation is to make them feel like they are a 'bother'.

2018-12-10 10:48:35 UTC  

You can wrangle them through the system on sympathy, and they'll murder themselves cleanly and legally. You can even pretend it's the right thing to do.

2018-12-10 10:49:03 UTC  

It's a very seductive kind of thinking, and you'd need to take it into consideration

2018-12-10 10:50:07 UTC  

Definitely. Eugenics is like Communism. Good on paper until you read a history book.

2018-12-10 15:15:04 UTC  

Yes, this is very much in that kind of territory.

2018-12-10 20:13:48 UTC  

It’s not eugenics though, and I said I understood the concept of human error, but I do think people who are terminal or have something degenerative should be allowed to die with dignity, instead of knowing how much pain they have to go through and it is all futile since they will die in the end anyway

2018-12-10 21:21:47 UTC  

Well it’s a heavy topic that makes a lot of people uncomfortable that doesn’t have much to do with Men’s rights so I’ll stop xD

2018-12-11 02:48:03 UTC  

2018-12-11 03:05:09 UTC  

2018-12-11 05:32:42 UTC  

2018-12-11 10:30:59 UTC  

@Abbysol Not the thing itself, I know. But it has potential to be used that way - and has been. My problem is not stopping futile pain, but the factor that it has huge potential for missuse. I'm not giving a hard no on it because I'm a fence sitter. My major worry is how it could be deployed to target the vulnerable. Most people campaigning for it know their own minds and could say no quite forcefully. A lot of people are easier to wear down - even very healthy ones.

2018-12-11 10:39:50 UTC  

In any case

2018-12-11 10:42:13 UTC  

Hey @everyone ! If you have a story for part two of Men Are Human's sexism at schools series, please feel free to post it in the <#512584940874104833> channel or send it in via the Contact Us page on the site. The deadline is fast approaching!

2018-12-11 10:42:50 UTC  

If you want to see the original, here it is:

2018-12-11 18:51:37 UTC  

2018-12-11 20:15:22 UTC  

How is everyone tonight?

2018-12-12 06:59:28 UTC  

2018-12-12 10:08:46 UTC  

Looks like one of my articles is back on the sub! :) Thanks for posting it @goodmod

2018-12-12 10:09:47 UTC  

It's a great article!

2018-12-12 10:12:53 UTC  

You should post any original content that's relevant - and make sure to tell people about your site and Discord channel. So it would probably involve making a text post with links.

2018-12-12 10:16:57 UTC  

well the more you post onto the reddit the more traffic you will get through your site which will make it more relevant that makes it easier to find on search algorithms

2018-12-12 12:54:58 UTC  

I absolutely will. Thank you for your support @goodmod

2018-12-12 12:55:58 UTC  

@Abbysol Hope so. In fact, I'm wondering if there are other subs that might listen? MGTOW is a possible one. Any others that might help?

2018-12-12 12:58:48 UTC  

TRP, even if it is quarantined

2018-12-12 13:02:48 UTC  

You might be concerned about the type of people that would attract, but you have ultimate control of what you want people to be able to comment on the site